From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Jan 8 16:24:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (placeholder-dcat-1076843399.broadbandoffice.net [64.47.83.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C77B37B401 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f090O5K31687; Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:24:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:24:05 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200101090024.f090O5K31687@earth.backplane.com> To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: Stefan Molnar , "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" , Subject: Re: Intel PRO/100+ driver or hardware? References: <128310000.978895262@grolsch.ai> <4.3.2.20010108174340.020ee910@207.227.119.2> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :>I have noticed that the eepro does not like some hubs/switches. :>I have a netgear 8 port 10mb switch, and the eepro just goes to :>a crawl with the same things you see. I have tried over a dozen :>eepro cards (had this switch for almost 2 years), and countless :>ethernet cables. I bought a 4 port hub, connected the xover to the :>swtitch and the eepro on the hub, and bamf, those problems went :>away. The tulip cards that most of the eepros replaced worked :>very happly. : :Almost every 8255x card works just fine with a Netgear FS105 here in all :modes. Say "almost" since I don't have an old 82556 card around. One of :systems has a newer version on an Asus A7V running -stable, so doubt the :problem is with FBSD or the card. Good cables and nailing down the modes :fix most problems. Most likely a hardware or disposition, as we seem to :say "doesn't like" when problems like this crop up, issue here. : :Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net :Systems/Network Administrator :FreeBSD - the power to serve I've had incredibly good luck with the netgear FS516 (16 port unmanaged switch), more then I probably deserve. I haven't had a single problem using them to distribute our office LAN. However, I get mixed results with the smaller netgear switches (e.g. 5 and 8-port babies), and would not recommend them. Here's a an interesting review in PC Mag of various managed and unmanaged switches. It doesn't say a lot about the unmanaged switches, but it is interesting nonetheless. http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2331808,00.html In anycase, as a general rule nobody should even be contemplating using a hub in these modern times. If you are cheap, then get a cheap switch. If you are loaded,then get a loaded switch :-) -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message