From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 25 18:06:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BE91065690 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:06:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outT.internet-mail-service.net (outt.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.243]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028E68FC32 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from idiom.com (mx0.idiom.com [216.240.32.160]) by out.internet-mail-service.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F4B2442; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:53:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [216.240.48.38]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781A92D601F; Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A942531.6000702@elischer.org> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:53:53 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers , hackers@freebsd.org References: <20090825034054.2d57e733@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org> In-Reply-To: <20090825034054.2d57e733@dev.lan.Awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Deprecating ps(1)s -w switch X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 18:06:57 -0000 Brian Somers wrote: > I recently closed bin/137647 and had second thoughts after Ivan (the > originator) challenged my reason for closing it. > > The suggestion is that ps's -w switch is a strange artifact that can > be safely deprecated. ps goes to great lengths to implement width > limitations, and any time I've seen people not using -ww has either > been a mistake or doesn't matter. Using 'cut -c1-N' is also a great > way of limiting widths if people really want that... > > I'd like to propose changing ps so that width limits are removed and > '-w' is deprecated - ignored for now with a note in the man page > saying that it will be removed in a future release. > > Does anyone have any objections to doing this? I don't propose > merging this back into stable/8. > my fingers would object as ps auxw is my standard command.