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Date:      Fri, 02 Aug 2019 13:46:56 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 239144] Identify generic RC framework extensions to improve ports script debugging
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Greg Veldman <freebsd@gregv.net> changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Greg Veldman <freebsd@gregv.net> ---
Some daemons can be quite verbose, and can be so long after startup.  Makin=
g a
global change to redirect all that to syslog is actually a fairly significa=
nt
functionality change, especially on small/embedded systems where the admin
might not want all that extra info.

Maybe I'm being overly simplistic, but if you're having a problem with daem=
on
startup, why not just look in the rc script, see what it's doing, then do t=
hat
manually from your terminal with whatever levels of debug/verbosity/output
redirection you find most appropriate?  The primary function of the rc
framework is to be an automation tool, not a debugging tool, IMHO.  Which i=
sn't
to say making debugging easier is a bad thing, but rather if something like
this is implemented on a large scale the defaults should probably reflect t=
he
current behavior, with the option for the local admin to change if desired.

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