From nobody Thu Apr 16 11:06:03 2026 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4fxFYz71sHz6ZRnh for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R13" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4fxFYz4xtmz3bNt; Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1776337575; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=aVxCzX74Z9pcDuB2TZNd6JufdydAQiV/XAxb3HEv1n8=; b=u7euGqizQ7IYnIsFw5nYdcegIwiZXe/EHzrJeslPGb0D182llnnn7AOs6Uu1UsnWjHAysJ dSAR8p1+FMElP1APMmCfFT+4IyN5zUhUiAMROl2RIgxyzN26G8rk0sM7XkSDjfH8VfQQzz g497aG56PJ4/sKOOIxJGM8QRP5CwaevoVdzAMsDkdBEXSXaEzwtdSzt2vf4T/iuadDU9jN YUO1Bc69fLmAyfVh63Sz0WbPdZK3KIGdJRGqHBiAXiqfVduEyM8RxIhKR7KWU9xyU52w8u WYKUDJzpjy7lrI00YlhcfCNuCSAk3w/HP7dgHmsST0nRjGC3FXhl8ClUQ6T8bw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1776337575; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=YLDtQMEwkvB0pIz+xkgMOUYPSqNpdirMxuzgJnh/eo/r+JRl6L9AZIPqdpsoEc3RhlM4D2 WyoWPjTi1Y2aoGuCd+ek+S1nTD/yowfR69v0b1Umi/ntxWSXmOzsV6KO7UR2fyp5LsyvHA RayZa6gAESSipW5noJe4t8zi7iBvLDWaRITadtOfuBsoq+FrzlHXRaHM/wIG9n59AexON3 lji3jzVeMbWjheYC2L4WS29TAzyh/K98e60yCJnbpESs8XdCtB9RutPT6sy4pNgO+NUQWr 6fCeuJ0I+HduwmdUtkQFQfuqHkXcTsqnl381x6ysxuJ+Wbkrl1lxCQ7EHSru1Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1776337575; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=aVxCzX74Z9pcDuB2TZNd6JufdydAQiV/XAxb3HEv1n8=; b=ifKBnOb/NDd9VZ2efrQVju2Qiei2H1/MKAxb2T8VEcyzknNG5A1vklDkh0TvDdKNAsKghS 41n7QrFiTcttyHdInv6Q0+GZoESqzVd4P7q0jbPAXkO/TPfpqgEHMfxVq9nO7G3bK50p8m MQE5/MM5Quti0T2Kw7itNa4u1vVOtMmU50fQptjpkp1Cggwfcv3UY1wum+VRaSHAPTMlg6 sMEzbx5tD6qCgz/48y4kvKsbxb1Ac4+6fW2XwnIjELDyYTEbWkOP1x/oaDM1gYLjSpoPS2 9eV9USsB0ey6oRERAVYniHS1NZM2U4ZYN0sXjgCcuYETo/yf0CbIPlIU/EtVgQ== Received: from smtp.theravensnest.org (smtp.theravensnest.org [45.77.103.195]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: theraven) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4fxFYz3x1Zz2d9; Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtpclient.apple (host109-150-128-1.range109-150.btcentralplus.com [109.150.128.1]) by smtp.theravensnest.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DD45B856A; Thu, 16 Apr 2026 12:06:14 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3864.400.21\)) Subject: Re: Building VM-IMAGE(s) from Source From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 12:06:03 +0100 Cc: vermaden , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <43EE066F-5E8E-4FC5-AD57-F50356107AD8@FreeBSD.org> References: To: Kurt Jaeger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3864.400.21) On 16 Apr 2026, at 11:34, Kurt Jaeger wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> For every other use case, `poudriere image` is a far more flexible = tool (does custom builds, can do base-system overlays, install packages, = build packages from ports-tree overlays, and so on), so why would you = write a tool that does a small subset of what it does? >=20 > The man page poudriere-image(8) (of 3.4.7) says: >=20 > WARNING: This feature is still considered ALPHA. It=E2=80=99s said that for many years, yet has worked well for most of = that time. Probably time to fix the man page... David