From owner-freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Fri Dec 28 17:44:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1BA141B240 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsnsdualce@memeware.net) Received: from cock.li (cock.li [185.100.85.212]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 499819323F for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vsnsdualce@memeware.net) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on cock.li X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,DKIM_SIGNED, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,PLING_QUERY,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=_SCTYPE_ autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=memeware.net; s=mail; t=1546019080; bh=s0zqPFsYY8ec9E1esg0nCucoUNGApeXUsz9yw9aWrkc=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=jYnm4T5+CUd91SDM+7iwPoDkKas38E9Yq/kJZ22n04hMyLHwr3D6hC4O0Ec3hCw+G aPdDf3CPDcIzJsGjwRfWG5HPGN7jdaXD/JpC6g4T+mLoSmIEv4ENhwV5RBW5WAO9l0 pEpok+M489EZjEe8EJBPQP7C7MS9vBD3J8cQXKDpv2f+xSKGO6/KKuLayiPfk6CK8d molj6M4DNL4E9XYr8uyXO/7v0HnE5YeWOBeCn5+pT67S9hKwJU4LSobco4aKRZTFbS vM9dpfrFLqZylOfRZTvkFnJpy5pY6ot/rBuu2zjMQ/I4nKK3LlnexWUihdhvSqX9z+ /o9LYipUhfLwg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:44:39 +0000 From: vsnsdualce@memeware.net To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why is no one discussing this anymore? - Attack the messaging rely, not the message! In-Reply-To: <20181228135728.GD5864@mit.edu> References: <20181228135728.GD5864@mit.edu> Message-ID: <16c47a7eeadd301e3fafec9369e23b23@memeware.net> X-Sender: vsnsdualce@memeware.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.6 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 499819323F X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none (invalid DKIM record) header.d=memeware.net header.s=mail header.b=jYnm4T5+; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vsnsdualce@memeware.net designates 185.100.85.212 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vsnsdualce@memeware.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.58 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[memeware.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[memeware.net:~]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mx1.cock.li]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; SUBJECT_ENDS_EXCLAIM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_PERMFAIL(0.00)[memeware.net:s=mail]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; IP_SCORE(-3.28)[ip: (-8.60), ipnet: 185.100.84.0/23(-4.30), asn: 200651(-3.41), country: SC(-0.09)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:200651, ipnet:185.100.84.0/23, country:SC]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_HAS_QUESTION(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2018 17:44:43 -0000 Lieutenant Ts'o: I see that you have adopted the strategy of "Attack the messaging service, not the message". You cannot refute my arguments, you and yours simply claim "it's a lie", "it's BS!", "it's a troll". The fact of the matter is: a license without an interest attached is revocable by the grantor. That is: if you have not been paid to forgo your right to rescind, you still retain that right. In the case of Linux or BSD: if entity X did not pay you, and did not reasonably rely on a promise not to rescind (a promise you never made), you can rescind the license at any time. This goes for all the 1000s of linux and BSD programmers who have not transferred their rights. Yes I am a licensed attorney. Yes my analysis is correct. And yes I'm still waiting on Eben Moglen's promised counter-analysis (it's been 2 months)... take a guess as to why. On 2018-12-28 13:57, Theodore Y. 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