From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 16 08:51:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC78F1065671 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: from email.octopus.com.au (host-122-100-2-232.octopus.com.au [122.100.2.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7796C8FC08 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:51:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@modulus.org) Received: by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 067C717D91; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:52:29 +1000 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on email.octopus.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.2.3 Received: from [10.20.30.102] (60.218.233.220.exetel.com.au [220.233.218.60]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: admin@email.octopus.com.au) by email.octopus.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF5817267; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:52:25 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <48CF7394.8040707@modulus.org> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:51:32 +1000 From: Andrew Snow User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable References: <1219409496.10487.22.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <593618A3-56DA-4891-A4A0-690E9A9C5B32@netconsonance.com> <20080904133604.GB1188@atarininja.org> <47d0403c0809051319r3c82f87bhdb15ce5b0167987a@mail.gmail.com> <2742CAB1-8FF2-425D-A3B6-0658D7DB8F4D@netconsonance.com> <48CF5282.10608@modulus.org> <20080916065657.GB12295@soaustin.net> In-Reply-To: <20080916065657.GB12295@soaustin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mark Linimon Subject: Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:51:48 -0000 Mark Linimon wrote: > So, in your opinion, what's the way to reconcile all these demands > (features + stability + long-term support of release branches) with > a group that is 95%-plus volunteer effort? Its important to me that people keep using FreeBSD. Numbers are important. To that end I'm happy for developers to keep working hardest on the parts of FreeBSD they find most rewarding. Something's got to give and you can't stop it by creating more beaurocracy and red tape. Another thing I think is important is for new hardware to be perpetually sent to those who can implement drivers and create patches. I don't feel the FreeBSD foundation is doing enough in that regard. Not talking about big ticket items like server farms, just new motherboards every time a new CPU or chipset is released. - Andrew