From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 19 13:11:01 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B2916A41F; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from thorn.pobox.com (vds.fauxbox.com [208.210.124.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B97543D55; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:11:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from b.candler@pobox.com) Received: from thorn (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thorn.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B78AEB; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mappit.local.linnet.org (212-74-113-67.static.dsl.as9105.com [212.74.113.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by thorn.sasl.smtp.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9CB1AE8; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists by mappit.local.linnet.org with local (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1EoKmz-000CPU-Jm; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:10:53 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:10:53 +0000 From: Brian Candler To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20051219131053.GA47692@uk.tiscali.com> References: <43A266E5.3080103@samsco.org> <20051217220021.GB93998@svcolo.com> <43A4A557.3010600@mac.com> <43A53215.8090001@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20051218171308.GA20557@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051218171308.GA20557@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Joe Rhett , stable@freebsd.org, Matthew Seaman , current Subject: Re: Fast releases demand binary updates.. (Was: Release schedule for 2006) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:11:01 -0000 On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:13:09PM -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Doesn't creating a binary updates system that's going to be practical to use > > require implementation of that old and exceedingly bikesheddable subject: > > packaging > > up the base system? > > No, after all the *existing* binary update systems don't require > packaging of the base system. Except that the existing binary update system is broken in several fundamental ways. I guess the reason it gets little attention is because most developers are happy to (or even prefer to) rebuild their systems from source. Regards, Brian.