From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 12:34:48 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D253137B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic-mail.adaptec.com [208.236.45.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297B143FAF; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6TJYlo13228; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:47 -0700 Received: from freebsd.org (hollin.btc.adaptec.com [10.100.253.56]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8p2+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20884; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3F26CBC1.7030704@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:32:17 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruslan Ermilov References: <200307211915.h6LJFPJY054212@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030721214042.GA563@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6216.3020006@freebsd.org> <20030721220419.GA909@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3F1C6633.5070009@freebsd.org> <20030722070239.GA2687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> In-Reply-To: <20030729191917.GA66399@sunbay.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: re@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:34:49 -0000 Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 09:02:39AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > >>On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 04:16:19PM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > [...] > >>>Is there an alternative for those in remote areas that can neither >>>download the miniiso nor buy the cd set? Every time that we talk about >>>downloading iso's, the issue comes up of those in eastern-bloc and >>>asian countries that have little bandwidth. Can Alpha do a 'boot-only' >>>cd image that is <5MB? >> >>Maybe. But you would need a lot of other stuff to make it useful as >>an installed system so why would the size of the boot'kit' be so important? >>I mean, you need the rest of the bits downloaded anyway to get a useful >>installation. >> > > This is not the point IMO. The point is to have the miniboot.iso > that could be used to replace a floppy, something less than 5MB, > with only kernel and MFS root on it (resembling the contents of > the "big" boot.flp floppy). Everything else would have to be > downloaded from the net (e.g., FTP), but that would not cost you > 236MB like it's currently for the miniinst.iso for 5.1/Alpha -- > the "base" distribution on FTP is only 47MB. > > If there's some interest, I could add the support for generating > miniboot.iso to release/Makefile. This would be extremely > useful for other platforms too, including i386. Just let me > know if there's a strong interest in this. > > > Cheers, This idea has intrigued me for a while. Feel free to prototype something! Scott