From owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 23 02:52:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 55C28825 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmfepi101.cox.net (eastrmfepi101.cox.net [68.230.241.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE30CFE for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo306 ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140923010157.COND19010.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo306> for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:01:57 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.22] ([72.219.202.186]) by eastrmimpo306 with cox id uR1w1o00A41obj401R1wxb; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:01:56 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.5420C685.0004,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Iq/AhsDg c=1 sm=1 a=k40gPPfQ5QH6qv5U/EJc3Q==:17 a=f5xKl4ys9bwA:10 a=BlRcszsOJAgA:10 a=Ru5FYdFCeWoA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=Wajolswj7cQA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ouVlVtp4Tpex8E8hpwMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=k40gPPfQ5QH6qv5U/EJc3Q==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <5420C691.10307@cox.net> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:02:09 -0400 From: "John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell" Reply-To: johnandsara2@cox.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: who controls freebsd now? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:52:11 -0000 i know dumb question to throw out is it the people listed? how'd they get in control? is it all on up and up? or are some suspicious? i hope some day to use it but the water looks cold ... in debian the KEY HOLDERS (maintainers) control it and there is some heat on whether they have who's interest in mind. maintainers say hog wash users must like systemd, ssh, hard installs, etc :) i know the reagents of CA used to control BSD, apple has a branch of that i see allot of foreigners hacking it (nervously) and wonder who actaully, if anyone, checks to see if these hacks are not engineered attempts to cause usa / ca / bsd to fail (implode due to tech failures / unhappy users) maybe an annoying discussion thanks for reading the question / having the post up