From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 22:04:34 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C90614C2AAC for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 22:04:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meka@tilda.center) Received: from mail.tilda.center (srv02.tilda.center [199.247.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF33285449 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 22:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meka@tilda.center) Received: from android-f9c8265451fadd59 (unknown [91.183.209.73]) by mail.tilda.center (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B31D18FE6; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:04:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:04:22 +0100 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <83736f61-abe9-d85f-a782-1b684808678c@gjunka.com> References: <089e330d-2761-2440-3b7f-dd22e9088af5@gjunka.com> <929CF558-E8CC-4F7D-9C30-DDD63C17861D@lassitu.de> <94964BDE-7B14-424B-88A5-4D8F4A9AAC56@exonetric.com> <83736f61-abe9-d85f-a782-1b684808678c@gjunka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The status of docker To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org, Grzegorz Junka , Mark Blackman CC: Stefan Bethke From: =?UTF-8?Q?Goran_Meki=C4=87?= Message-ID: <0CE9FE94-68B3-4634-B762-440E11E9D4C5@tilda.center> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: BF33285449 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of meka@tilda.center designates 199.247.21.11 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=meka@tilda.center X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.01 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_XBL(3.00)[73.209.183.91.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.4]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tilda.center]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.958,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; BAD_REP_POLICIES(0.10)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mail.tilda.center]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.51)[-0.513,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.63)[ip: (-9.56), ipnet: 199.247.16.0/21(-4.51), asn: 20473(1.01), country: US(-0.07)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:199.247.16.0/21, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 22:04:34 -0000 On 1 February 2019 20:39:31 CET, Grzegorz Junka wrote: >On 31/01/2019 07:50, Mark Blackman wrote: >> What problem are you trying to solve with docker? > >There is a misunderstanding=2E I am not trying to solve any problem=2E Th= e=20 >team I am working with is using docker during development (by using a=20 >preconfigured container they avoid having to setup a complex backend=20 >system on development/CI machines)=2E I was hoping to use FreeBSD during= =20 >the development but it proved difficult=2E I now have a choice of either= =20 >switching to Linux natively (as bhyve didn't help) or to use MacBook >Pro=20 >- both supporting docker out of the box=2E > >Thanks > >GrzegorzJ > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-virtualization@freebsd=2Eorg mailing list >https://lists=2Efreebsd=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization >To unsubscribe, send any mail to >"freebsd-virtualization-unsubscribe@freebsd=2Eorg" Does it have to be docker? When I faced similar problem, I thought it was = wise to invest time in development inside jail, so I wrote Reggae based on = CBSD=2E I'll publish a bugfix version as soon as i get back from FOSDEM so = you might give it a try=2E I wrote few ansible playbooks for services I nee= ded in jail like PostgreSQL, RabbitMQ, mail based on postfix+dovecot, etc= =2E Reggae is inspired by docker compose and Vagrant, hence you can run mul= tiple jails per project, like docker compose=2E --=20 FreeB(eer)S(ex)D(drugs) are the real demons From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Sat Feb 2 11:59:45 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263D214BAE82 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from msa1.earth.yoonka.com (yoonka.com [88.98.225.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "msa1.earth.yoonka.com", Issuer "msa1.earth.yoonka.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C6A58551A for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from crayon2.yoonka.com (crayon2.yoonka.com [10.70.7.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa1.earth.yoonka.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x12Bxe5j092045 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:59:40 GMT (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Subject: Re: The status of docker To: =?UTF-8?Q?Goran_Meki=c4=87?= , freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org, Mark Blackman Cc: Stefan Bethke References: <089e330d-2761-2440-3b7f-dd22e9088af5@gjunka.com> <929CF558-E8CC-4F7D-9C30-DDD63C17861D@lassitu.de> <94964BDE-7B14-424B-88A5-4D8F4A9AAC56@exonetric.com> <83736f61-abe9-d85f-a782-1b684808678c@gjunka.com> <0CE9FE94-68B3-4634-B762-440E11E9D4C5@tilda.center> From: Grzegorz Junka Message-ID: <43008c1f-488c-7f48-3f58-61679286c19c@gjunka.com> Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2019 11:59:40 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0CE9FE94-68B3-4634-B762-440E11E9D4C5@tilda.center> Content-Language: en-GB-large X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 1C6A58551A X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of list1@gjunka.com designates 88.98.225.149 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=list1@gjunka.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.67 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:88.98.225.149]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gjunka.com]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: gjunka.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.71)[-0.714,0]; IP_SCORE(-3.64)[ip: (-9.53), ipnet: 88.98.192.0/18(-4.77), asn: 56478(-3.81), country: GB(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:56478, ipnet:88.98.192.0/18, country:GB]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2019 11:59:45 -0000 On 01/02/2019 22:04, Goran Mekić wrote: > On 1 February 2019 20:39:31 CET, Grzegorz Junka wrote: > > On 31/01/2019 07:50, Mark Blackman wrote: > > What problem are you trying to solve with docker? > > > There is a misunderstanding. I am not trying to solve any problem. The > team I am working with is using docker during development (by using a > preconfigured container they avoid having to setup a complex backend > system on development/CI machines). I was hoping to use FreeBSD during > the development but it proved difficult. I now have a choice of either > switching to Linux natively (as bhyve didn't help) or to use MacBook Pro > - both supporting docker out of the box. > > Thanks > > GrzegorzJ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-virtualization-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Does it have to be docker? When I faced similar problem, I thought it > was wise to invest time in development inside jail, so I wrote Reggae > based on CBSD. I'll publish a bugfix version as soon as i get back > from FOSDEM so you might give it a try. I wrote few ansible playbooks > for services I needed in jail like PostgreSQL, RabbitMQ, mail based on > postfix+dovecot, etc. Reggae is inspired by docker compose and > Vagrant, hence you can run multiple jails per project, like docker > compose. > Well, only I am using FreeBSD. The others are using Macs for development. So technically it makes more sense for me to use their tools rather than trying to convince them to switch to FreeBSD and use jails. Reggae sounds great but sadly it's not going to help me here. GrzegorzJ