From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 20 00:20:47 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67FAD16A4CE for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.198]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C803E43D2D for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jasonrcrawford@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a41so580911rng for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:20:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=dsNBT3YW5UklDjrTafvKjJmV3ZGEPXDvb531OLE0pSuoowPsSXTeO6yS3IeZymR+0Oqz8C3jAw8n1Vj3fBJqkQFuPnBTdNMbpKzAo+q+dJaH/LyvBif+498Vk8V/z8IOsolbErELK905Yt7MjZ/IbPGkpUKM+Buaha8+rXyJBEU= Received: by 10.38.152.6 with SMTP id z6mr3575489rnd; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.152.34 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:20:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5d6838280503191620387146c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:20:46 -0500 From: Jason Crawford To: Charles Swiger In-Reply-To: <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <423C90AB.9030105@samsco.org> <200503192219.j2JMJDb6025915@cvs.openbsd.org> <5d683828050319160171ca7627@mail.gmail.com> <8d1ffb5ad4233d7ca6499fb2c72c38db@mac.com> cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: freebsd list cc: Theo de Raadt Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jason Crawford List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 00:20:47 -0000 I fail to see how this "FUD check" email has anything to do with the fact that Scott locked all freebsd users to Adaptec's binary-only management utility, which means the user IS NOT FREE to change something on it to either work better, fix a bug, add a feature, or just experiment, as well as just develop/use a different management utility. This is not FUD, but fact. An unacceptable fact. Talking about how other raid controllers work with FreeBSD too has nothing to do with what I said, except that they too are binary-only no-free-documenation vendors at this point as well. On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:15:20 -0500, Charles Swiger wrote: > On Mar 19, 2005, at 7:01 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > > FreeBSD users.. also watch how Scott claims he is about freedom of > > choice, yet proceeded to lock you into only one option for a RAID > > card, which would seem to be anti-choice... and being pro-choice would > > have pushed for open docs a long time ago. > > FUD check: > > FreeBSD works quite well with RAID products from 3ware, Promise, and > Highpoint to my direct knowledge, as well as Adaptec's, and I've seen > dmesg's on had accounts on systems using Mylex and LSI controllers. I > am not as sure about the Qlogic and DPT brands. > > Things aren't perfect-- I lost a 4-disk * 120GB RAID-10 array on a > HPT-370 about a year ago, and was very fortunate to have had good > backups, but I can't truly blame FreeBSD's ATA/RAID implementation, > since I'd used the HPT BIOS to do the rebuild rather than atacontrol. > > Next time I'll buy a 3ware or Promise card, though, not use a MB-based > HPT controller... > > -- > -Chuck > >