From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 27 22:28:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01993 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:28:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au (mail.mel.aone.net.au [203.12.176.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01940 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:28:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from normh@aone.com.au) Received: from pc-normh.office.adl.aone.com.au (pc-normh.adl.aone.com.au [203.12.181.67]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA23890; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:27:44 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199801280627.RAA23890@mail.mel.aone.net.au> From: "Norman Hoy" To: "John Kelly" , Cc: Subject: Re: Sendmail - low on space Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:57:11 +1030 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes but the problem that I have with putting any highly variable file system on a partition is the inability of UFS to expand. Once the system out grows your "allowance" you must then rebuild your hdd. but if you have /var as a separate hdd (even an old 520M/b) when it is getting full you just mount and build another /var under say /mnt then shutdown remove old hdd put new hdd in its place (say 1G/b) and away you go again. All of this depends on you putting /var on its own hdd in the first place otherwise you have to edit the /etc/fstab file to put /temp on say sd3s1 instead of sd0s3. making life very easy to grow your variable file systems. and that was where this thread started once a FS is full how can you grow it painlessly and quickly. answer when you first install keep the /var on its own hdd my opinion only. regards Norman ---------- > From: John Kelly > To: jack@germanium.xtalwind.net > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Sendmail - low on space > Date: Wednesday, 28 January 1998 15:52 > > On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:33:02 -0500 (EST), jack > wrote: > > >On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, John Kelly wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:24:55 -0500 (EST), Andrew Webster > >> wrote: > >> > >> >I create my systems without a physical /var parition and symlink /var and > >> >/tmp into /usr/var and /usr/tmp respectively, this eliminates all > >> >problems, and you don't end up "wasting" lots of disk space for temporary > >> >files. > > > >> I see little benefit in a partition dedicated to /var. > > > >I do. I like the fact that the / partition, with the critical system > >files, is not written to each time a log entry is made > > Please read the message again. Root (/) will still have its own > parition. The separate /var partition is the one we're suggesting to > eliminate by consolidating it inside /usr. > > ------- > The day of the proprietary OS is over. Long live free software. >