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Date:      Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:51:14 -0600
From:      jacks@sage-american.com
To:        "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Smashing Bill Gates necessary?
Message-ID:  <3.0.5.32.20011031095114.00f94888@mail.sage-american.com>
In-Reply-To: <001001c161d5$58184b40$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
References:  <3.0.5.32.20011030082719.00fa6e38@mail.sage-american.com>

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Get off your high horse, and stop the bible-thumping Ted... You missed the
point. I said I have an opinion. Just because you don't agree is just too
bad. You not only have opinions, you want to impose them and smother
others. That's akin to burning books!

As far as all of the legal talk, you take it out of context. There are laws
alright, but it's all a matter of who is best at interpreting those laws.
I've watched courtroom arguments go on for hours (days) in a convincing
intrepretion on a point of law, only to listen to opposing counsel argue
the exact same law on the books with a totally different interpretation
just as convincingly. Then the appeals start after that to try and further
interpret that law on the books... and test the law on the books. That
becomes case law that will become part of later agruments in other cases
and so on... so, to suggest I waste my time working to change the law is
just ludricrous. That's high-horse stuff!

It never ceases to amaze me that when one becomes an "expert" in one field,
suddenly he becomes an expert in all...we're both wearing out our welcome
on this subject, so don't bother to come back at me for another
one-upsmanship shot.... I don't just don't care about the "Bill thing"
until you make it personal!

At 10:29 PM 10.30.2001 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jacks@sage-american.com [mailto:jacks@sage-american.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 6:27 AM
>>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG;
>>freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>>Subject: RE: Smashing Bill Gates necessary?
>>
>>
>>
>>"...Whoah there! Your way, way out of line...."
>>
>>Ted: While I have a lot of respect for your expertise in BSD, I was unaware
>>you also practiced law... or do you have a law degree specializing in
>>anti-trust?
>
>The findings of the court are in plain English.  Anyone can read them.
>They are also the law of the land unless some future appeal to the
>US Supreme Court becomes likely and the judgement is overturned.
>
>Sorry but I'm pretty disgusted by people running around talking like
>the court's judgement on this is some kind of random opinion.  It's the
>law at the current time.  Microsoft has been found in a court with
>jurisdiction - no several courts - to be an illegal monopoly.
>
>Everyone has opinions about laws and court judgements out there.  My beef
>with your statement was not that your opinion that the judgement is
>wrong or bad is invalid - my beef is your statement that just because
>some people don't like the findings of the court that the findings are
>meaningless.  It's a fine hair to split perhaps - but right now Microsoft
>is running around playing victim and they are doing it for a blatant and
>obvious reason.  They are doing it because they intend once the judgement is
>final to attempt to get Congress to pass some laws and gut the judgement.
>
>When you say things like "bust him up without any good reason" you are just
>repeating the same bullshit from Microsoft's PR department.  There IS a
>good reason to bust them up - they are breaking the law which makes them
>criminals.  We are past the point at which it's a matter of opinion as to
>whether Microsoft is engaged in illegal criminal activity.  It's now a
>FACT.  They ARE, according to how the court has interpreted the law of the
>land.
>
>Ted Mittelstaedt                                       tedm@toybox.placo.com
>Author of:                           The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
>Book website:                          http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com
>
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Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Server Admin

Sage-American
http://www.sage-american.com
jacks@sage-american.com

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