From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Apr 1 16:18:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ion.gank.org (ion.gank.org [64.81.113.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC3137B416 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 16:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from aldaris (dsl081-113-221.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.113.221]) by ion.gank.org (GankMail) with ESMTP id B94F31B7; Mon, 1 Apr 2002 18:20:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007401c1d9db$e1659280$5f45a8c0@auir.gank.org> Reply-To: "Craig Boston" From: "Craig Boston" To: "Dave Hayes" Cc: References: <200204012343.g31NhrR78804@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> Subject: Re: status of ATA subsystem Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 18:18:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This is true. However, stability is an issue AND I also want the newer > things in -STABLE, like sendmail 8.12 (ducks), and even Soren's ATA > based cdrecord so I can finally burn CDs on my arbitrary CDRW drive > here. You want stability *AND* bleeding edge features? How about a potion of immortaility while we're at it? (only joking, of course) > So I believe the properly phrased questions are > > a) "What is the stability status of the current changes to the ATA > subsystem in -STABLE?". I think only prolonged testing well tell that. After all, -STABLE is technically a development branch. Just many people (myself included) have gotten spoiled since it's usually almost as solid as the releases. Whether or not a big change such as this was mature enough to be moved from -current into -stable is another flame^H^H^H^H^Hdiscussion entirely, but remember that it had to happen eventually. > b) "We'd like to know the first date (past today) that someone sups > -STABLE who runs ATA devices, and sees no problems." > > and > > c) "We'd like to know the last date (past today) that someone sups > -STABLE who runs ATA devices, and sees problems." Who is "someone"? :) I'd be willing to bet there are a lot more people out there who are having no problems with the new ATA drivers than those who are. Generally from what I've seen on the lists and through personal experience, if you have good and/or common hardware you won't have any problems. It's working perfectly for me on a Promise RAID card and Intel 440BX integrated controllers (I forget exactly what ATA chipset they use). However, I also have some super-discount IDE boards that worked with release, but have some problems with the new driver. I'd say to be absolutely sure, pick a machine that's generally reperensative of the hardware you have (but not too terribly important), do a buildworld and buildkernel, installkernel, reboot and see if it works. Try some things in single-user mode and stress-test the ATA subsystem. Pretty much all the problems I've heard about manifest themselves at boot or shortly thereafter, so if it works at first you probably won't have any problems; and can do the installworld and mergemaster. If it doesn't, you can just copy the old kernel and modules back and everything should fine. And of course, report your findings so that any issues you encounter can be fixed! :) Craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message