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To: Konstantin Belousov Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20181211210106.nq4ucrnasmfnxog7@privacychain.ch> <99a1c6da-595e-c56d-c66a-d2fad81421bb@ixsystems.com> <20181211211544.GH60291@kib.kiev.ua> From: Kris Moore Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=kris@ixsystems.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFnp+coBEADCFx6BWLwcoFWGz31gP571fwGraNjKwPOoUcL2Xjeyz7Dv5n6v8VDpQIqa jhchZcSEcwbterC7EblpcVGJSUP4ViwZFGFGlmxsKd5YfcJ+8M6VJbsF9usCU+WNOZTGP0hv nu9OQB+pfEbQul3qdKiVd1A5O5+3TSlo0dul6c0ziWqkj5ml0lqNszAc5qLXiKlRzUkHHVEQ tKqWZ+TVFUb8k6P4FnW5qKYieCuMlxuJR3jDLkTGT3U2xAdBRPBNMr7lgXva9dl6q0MEYswT iOozYsF1FrsUj9xVHCPfvJNGCyVIFNWX1IuE1OR6Z9SiGBdQtqKPY6YLO3Yh4WHtSCnOKomF LVEUbM6GfoKKk6yz0ooS24zCW2u31zhY8S1Pn+hEJ02DbIZMewI8XPdqdfVDnqXkMUGibC/X OHLU0aE5kUgws8DJviddP+p1iYEzjt8eFQzkg83FtN0WCpHGPWGF8DjoW58vFkcxXfUa27Yq RBxU3dyark34vL+x6TFjg85q25p73VD6sP/pCnwUZFgVvpu2rIuuE9wWJnrCim3o+3cqYn9A NGUojKnGRU58+SgJKalfSmCF2k04LO27x7uuZesGflq5kRg0ROhGdBvT9Xv47rscoc9HsAjx tEaX9CXgIP4LbjlMUXaBpM1cr5rKQhaYti9KOqI4OcUnnFnJBQARAQABzR9LcmlzIE1vb3Jl IDxrcmlzQGl4c3lzdGVtcy5jb20+wsGOBBMBCAA4FiEE6kMoZ0WccL4k6H+L0I7MhrJaycYF Alnp+coCGyMFCwkIBwIGFQgJCgsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ0I7MhrJaycaFgg/+J1TPhfrK 0SxNLbCSKrGCX6axk/2HezIuu0dPsX7Pv5FJptWKyyp9YqhUT4rmFhZnDg3mRvFp8qJgY1BF zlOfHBPMw+vevetuzj9XpGOUthNNXX2RS2YHmoTvaEBK/x17O5kAjPX1108jpXWx8p0/a8GE /xf1/BJHMUkk4Fc32QFzOqsTMAB4B9O3iogq6CVCfbqrC7trQuPsDv2gEguEu1JzGM0FpWtl tbvSSfrTc5kHQjTjZZQIfow6yS8mfforEDeSFdsf+Q8eIfOt7X1B+xhVOrRhoyYVCV4FvcWh wz/8kFLQKGXZ7Fp52FwWTfVDUzmmZji+5Vp5cQAnVLO2Zr5vNusJbn+jiv6TH6LPp6WLZcb7 cEZTgON2rFSBMb73wleIp2+CPZJ84nzM0fpMHsZPZmVrgxf+OPHdoAChAIXiN1gUBqAhJ2b7 xvycL/Yw2mzcQutlH7us6difgtpczpHTOS3ammVmzwf/Vgtqz+S8jFGNqFQ+CdAfAY1ZYkt/ +yO79mtiZX+/wdf0JH9Rcmyr28rSglGh2hA6zc5swKzSaS8F94EOir3K9jN+DLsS6L92SBmL WIRcgXC9mzA5jIOaKZC03JR2HSwww4NZqd0S/BS91Zjf9Oa8fPqB7pKTrLLJmpQzYyVnoiDC Sb+IkLRHj1fH2fXeq7yl9jZ3+M7OwU0EWen5ygEQAMCa4R90ZXRtv0nM21/v9tx8AtSS7cWI JvMLMhE/0DWOqTbakmdUtoX8fUg/r/jEZ5hnuT0EtTfjou8mxZIOvu3tlG3mb4Fkyc7XYylh 0VPt+vnG4dRLsfzZJduksC8CQlPX9NxM4UeSi/KX5XMK+5eEZV6Z9mhVTnrM40AgngUOdON9 aZJVc39aCwTYT7BZ4mq6jFfMaNxp3GxGHp5f/oE7VVRb+Fj6xq4BP60w4gQS6W5suLY4+hHI 3bkQ9N/M9RbXpa2N5zAZnRFPw9j06kwJGHrHdXSSKF0OTa0GXO4KtUxGUhMkRrZ7vOSPJO8l R3x0cEN1/a76Vn3lsX+xJH28zfhsj6taZwPoP9GOFzuEIzM7PZ7fVm4Ao17i/r10FfrzOWW6 0QehjJ9Mr4Gjj7YxTOWc5NCuZv/jscOzzsLBoVQAUYu9fnCPUBkGpCutO2vAmJkpUkupmtHo +94b87cXtcCFRxRBXTiUhD/Ge9Y+ZElxWgF5mFAs0Lk3Y2t55vWh05SOWiu2JUGucXl3zdfC 5+FrrFs5XfIEFGVBjLsFiwiBII+Eo2QWSjwumrodVGmY4YEieNn1Gje7CxAlDTjjSSPBlpuh Z4gwQ6DSm7BOdlItDhNCkH6J8cWMO05zEnO3b7lcUDMi1xXbiYYKXz1hq8RkU6BSkPo1mYOq hY2XABEBAAHCwXYEGAEIACAWIQTqQyhnRZxwviTof4vQjsyGslrJxgUCWen5ygIbDAAKCRDQ jsyGslrJxvhyD/0Zg5xAiakqry4EzUHkyWGHTjYQtD7qJl+3OT+UCUAceCSz9XsoMSRiVTyN 1gg6DPDqaixF3qq1DEoEiU2HkL4Hpl34oveHDFGLNiyqZJ11T0TG6PhA294PuxdyZgHDqyEz FOpLmZaLQiCs34CX7tDubaGZJjdLVljQ4+S/BMeaBCT8Z16NnuYitLMmwAaaaNl2Sb4n4edA alRYdKY48d3Jl8usKZDVYFiAbTwxzTDM8Zs4owTo4Ynx5XIW0vXD1hkxdEDf3pJz0cxek3Nn 0Nbmayg4ZOvYunRbS4soavwxPmVjIUr8gtxF7SDF2wg+EHMr2Fmnggw4BXqo3P/PKMIAVYZT Bl60+5VgFBqejds0o9Reo9yaUCNSL1DVa8FSWXkS/kFnkud1KIGBeTDIoEidBMZOtRg1obtR G2xdV5G+6NMn2KTUmsPmbwKyf/ii1fujcKXyVHEX0loG3JJ+LNw0zWH3EbrIpiVHZOkk0Dny +mlVdpBoWxz0WvK2mDttr3Qge9a0o1dZ1BTg/+aNxQO04+hVKPk7OEbdR6LpW4ExNGDpXBBN Acr4FZ0yTw8+7XLx2A/F5ETkOPBLUU4KkwMuGCvNeazwkZsjizTg28COWlodT1HQLecstUM6 THbcZJc4jIgSAjKQ87RQ/lCVBCGoaEbJ/zcrsMh5RbMrWszApQ== Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 16:17:52 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181211211544.GH60291@kib.kiev.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 11D0D6E3D6 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.985,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:19:12 -0000 On 12/11/18 4:15 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 04:04:15PM -0500, Kris Moore wrote: >> On 12/11/18 4:01 PM, Alexandre C. Guimarães wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> This is just informative. >>> >>> Apparently Linux is considering deprecate x32 support: >>> >>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/12/10/1151 >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >> Hey that's great! Now that the precedent is set, we start the timer to >> deprecate on FreeBSD in roughly 10 years now :) > Fine, but we would need to implement it first. I should read closer, I mis-read that as i386 ;) Snarky comment withdrawn! -- Kris Moore Vice President of Engineering iXsystems, Inc Ph: (408) 943-4100 Ph: (408) 943-4101 The Groundbreaking TrueNAS M-Series - Enterprise Storage & Servers Driven By Open Source