From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 14 19:41:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8379916A4CE for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:41:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vfemail.net (miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net [216.170.248.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECAB043D2D for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:41:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from lute@vfemail.net) Received: (qmail 90686 invoked by uid 85); 14 Dec 2004 19:41:00 -0000 Received: from lute@vfemail.net by mail.vfemail.net by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (clamscan: 0.75.1. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:. Processed in 0.054597 secs); 14 Dec 2004 19:41:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO agnes.myhome.net) (lute@vfemail.net@63.229.187.130) by miwi2dsl-a234.wi.tds.net with SMTP; 14 Dec 2004 19:40:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:41:01 -0600 From: Lute Mullenix To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20041214134101.6dc59ff6@agnes.myhome.net> In-Reply-To: <41BEC5A1.2040302@nbritton.org> References: <003b01c4e19c$c1a54c80$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> <41BE8303.5060401@nbritton.org> <008d01c4e1a7$e3b8e5b0$0200a8c0@PANASONIULSWMR> <41BEC5A1.2040302@nbritton.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RELENG_5 vs. RELENG_5_3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:41:02 -0000 On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 04:51:13 -0600 Nikolas Britton insisted: {trimmed for space} > > YES!, Its still a tad ruff around the edges but you have to remember > that FreeBSD (and the other BSDs) has very high standards when it comes > to system stability, uptime is measured in years not months or days, so > if they say its ready for production use then it is, also, FreeBSD 5.x > as a chicken and the egg problem, it needs more people using it to work > out those ruff edges, but everyone "thinks" it not "ready" so they go > with 4.x thus adding to problem. Being that FreeBSD 5 is already at 5.3 > were sorta at the now or never point, its time for everyone to just grin > > and bear it so we can get this show on the road. > > If you don't believe me that FreeBSD works like "running water" then > have a look at this, all 50 spots are held by *BSD: > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html I have to agree, I have been running 5.3 since it was RELEASEd, and it's been totally stable, the only real complaint is, that I am having some problems with port builds. The main one being the panel on xfce4, (sigh) my preferred desk top. But sound worked right out of the box, and after a bit of wrestling got Xorg up and running. The only time it's been down has been for the required reboot for the couple of security updates it's had so far. It would be good if people who put more demands on the OS than I do would use it so any other quirks can be rooted out. In the mean time I will just use blackbox and keep hoping for the panel on xfce4 to get fixed. On the other hand I have no intention of ditching FBSD or regressing to an earlier version. It's working and I can live with it knowing there are smarter people than me out there making it work better. -- Lute It's OK to be different FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE