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Date:      Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:26:41 -0400
From:      Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-geom@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Automatic Geli?
Message-ID:  <CA%2BQLa9DtSvStGiZk%2BtfD50ddshvuzjEv7pPTPXcjwPes1BCuYA@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <103630107.20120416150821@serebryakov.spb.ru>
References:  <COL115-W4014B9D06091DFE170C09BA5370@phx.gbl> <20120411093458.GC1319@garage.freebsd.pl> <4f864bb4.Q7/highsGaOoTKF6%perryh@pluto.rain.com> <CA%2BQLa9AVHELB%2B=BPZ611cu3v4vWxpKoFMe91Sdnk=0RtSB%2BMFw@mail.gmail.com> <103630107.20120416150821@serebryakov.spb.ru>

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Lev Serebryakov <lev@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Hello, Robert.
> You wrote 12 =D0=B0=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8F 2012 =D0=B3., 20:24:25:
>
>> It will stop those who can figure out how???? =C2=A0It's a file in the
>> unencrypted portion of the image. =C2=A0"extracting" would entail "geli
>> attach -j /pathto/foo.pass -k /pathto/foo.key /dev/foo0"
>
>> There is no effort involved. =C2=A0And they are not "bypassing the
>> encryption" or "making offline access non-trivial". =C2=A0They are "doin=
g
>> it wrong".
>
>> I'm not sure that anything you said makes sense.
> =C2=A0It makes perfect sense. If you know only Windows and use this "cach=
e"
> CD in small office as some "black box", you cannot call "geli
> attach". You could read CD and even unpack "tar.gz" but nothing more.
> Any non-standard encryption, even with empty passphrase is adequate
> protection in such cases.

Not intelligent.  If it is meant as a cache in this case, and geli
lets you setup a provider with a one time key for precisely this exact
purpose, then using the software incorrectly is stupid.

And, no, it's not adequate protection to use a blank passphrase.  That
too is stupid.  You're making a bad argument.



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