From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 14 20:21:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA34210656C2; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3549C8FC17; Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail34.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n0EKLK39022075 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:21:21 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n0EKLJEj084162; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:21:19 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n0EKLIWR084161; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:21:18 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:21:18 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Kirill Ponomarew Message-ID: <20090114202117.GB16116@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <200901132138.n0DLcosP013731@repoman.freebsd.org> <20090113213900.DC9031065703@hub.freebsd.org> <20090114160829.GA4867@voodoo.bawue.com> <496E14C7.70306@protey.ru> <20090114162715.GB4867@voodoo.bawue.com> <496E1630.8040008@p6m7g8.com> <20090114163621.GC4867@voodoo.bawue.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090114163621.GC4867@voodoo.bawue.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: "Philip M. Gollucci" , cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Sergey Skvortsov , cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ports] cvs commit: ports UPDATING ports/Mk bsd.perl.mk ports/lang/perl5.8 Makefile Makefile.man distinfo pkg-plist ports/lang/perl5.8/files patch-freebsd.sh patch-makedepend patch-perl.c patch-sv.c patch-utf-regcomp X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: **OBSOLETE** CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:21:28 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2009-Jan-14 17:36:21 +0100, Kirill Ponomarew wr= ote: >On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:43:28AM -0500, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >> > Could you elaborate on this topic and explain the reason for separate = port? >> Not everyone is going to update immediately. Also loads of the p5- ports= will=20 >> have issues or be incompatible. > >You could run pointyhat for the issues with incompatibility. Not necessarily. Incompatibilities are more likely to show up at runtime than compile time. Unless the p5- port implements self tests and/or correct version tests, it's likely that incompatibilites will be missed. There's also the issue of user's perl code - which we can't test. (Given the incomatibilities between perl 5.6 and 5.8, this may even be justification for leaving a perl5.6 port in the tree until bitrot sets in, rather than yanking it once perl 5.10 becomes reasonably stable). >> ITs going to be dual lifed like perl 5.6 I think this is an excellent idea. Note that we have multiple jdk's and gcc's in ports. There's no reason why we can't also have several perl's. >> lang/perl5 >> lang/perl5.8 >> lang/perl5.10 > >Jeez... I'm less keen on having a perl5 port that is (effectively) obsolete. Any lang/perl or lang/perl5 port should be the latest stable release. (Java fell into that hole and a significant number of people were caught trying to install java 1.1 when they actually wanted java 1.4 or java 1.5). --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkluST0ACgkQ/opHv/APuIc5CACguTyH9uQP5u9R8l45pYLQpAj8 hDEAnjI+F4Y8rzKbA68BS7AKQOovvT7L =SDox -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp--