Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:56:57 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> To: Randall Hopper <rhh@ct.picker.com> Cc: Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who is interested in /dev/midi and /dev/synth ? Message-ID: <199710161056.DAA00353@rah.star-gate.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:10:47 EDT." <19971015171047.05325@ct.picker.com>
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Hi Guys, Just be a little patient. Luigi is coming up to speed and to be honest he needs a hand to help him solve some of the technical issues. Luigi's driver is sufficiently different that one can not just rip code out of the linux sound driver and drop in his driver and Randall I expect for you to understand this because you have cursory knowledge of both sound drivers. On the down side , if we manage to burn him up then it seems to me that the next alternative for full fledge support is the OSS driver. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > > Luigi Rizzo: > |> Luigi Rizzo: > |> |I am wondering if there is anyone who really needs /dev/midi and > |> |/dev/synth, and used them on the old sound driver. If you do, (Uncle > |> |Sam's finger pointed at you) speak up, telling which apps you use > |> |which do not work with the new audio driver, where I can find them, > |> |and how are you going to help in implementing these devices. > |> > |> I use timidity on my Sparc at work and have used it on Linux boxes. Nice > |> program if you don't have a card with wavetable support (which BTW are di rt > |> cheap nowadays). However it sucks serious CPU, and the sound quality wit h > | > |i forgot... also CPUs are dirt cheap these days, and last time I > |checked a Pentium133 (or 166 ?) was cheaper than an AWE32... > | > |my point is, perhaps you can invest the money for the wavewable card > |into a much faster (or secondary) CPU. > > Are you serious? > > So do you mean to say that since there's a program that'll do > better-than-nothing MIDI synth on the CPU, we should rip out support for > the synth devices and for soundcards that support synth in hardware? > ...Ignoring for a second the fact that MIDIs aren't the only thing the > synth devices are used for, that not everyone's rolling in upgrade money > like you and me, and that the audio quality and CPU load of timidity is -- > just that, better-than-nothing. > > If the functionality is there from the old driver, why rip it out? > > You originally asked for those that use the synth devices with the old > sound driver to speak up and I did. Though the AWE driver and sequencer > apps, I play MIDIs, MODs, 669s, S3Ms, etc. (while I work on other things) > and the Doom Music server (on occasion) on the wavetable side of my SB32. > It sounds like I didn't give you the answer you wanted. > > Now if the absense of the synth devices is just a temporary thing not > intended to be the case in the checked-in release, then I that's fine -- I > misunderstood. But if we're talking about removing them for good, then I > have objections to this. > > Randall
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