From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 21 23:29:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66520827; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 23:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-x229.google.com (mail-we0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5CCD1A51; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 23:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id w61so3853571wes.28 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:29:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=OZAwHTPV56QIA/u0QzolHsb9PmCD+Dt+6NxEkDpykBU=; b=YHj0L4EVepWEF19xnrXOhHc0w5VTPGcKjoXNiDvjMI4IrRql3NXG6y/KGpxmN7jb9R J0u9aChQEheKPZR0rb/TemI4Oyy/D+/+ku00qfnOImMc0cKE5/EsJuaWUjVhdDt9R+rf CWi2dS8uOhn6mtLrS8y0WpD2RWD/VBTDLWrqy2WJdFgJx7WBGDyhLI0LrAhoZlwqnDPh WkEoU28d9UjMgclEp5hXL/d6Ew906LW7/YQQd/MgCbMyt3k3TIl1lxGof7JuAYDSZlPr 6BD0mhKlFnAaM8Ycxfw4PfBoYK6xohZ0M2236WWbSecY6v262gZNr6nnZanymuHrolVW coZw== X-Received: by 10.194.173.163 with SMTP id bl3mr12874533wjc.10.1387668564267; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.70] (lantea.jlaffaye.net. [109.190.125.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qj4sm5941903wjc.15.2013.12.21.15.29.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:29:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: Julien Laffaye Message-ID: <52B62458.4010005@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:29:28 +0100 From: Julien Laffaye User-Agent: Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Kargl Subject: Re: PACKAGESITE spam References: <20131221200538.GA60827@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20131221201026.GB1730@glenbarber.us> <20131221201403.GB60827@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20131221210553.GA61158@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <52B60727.8090001@bluerosetech.com> <20131221213959.GA61238@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20131221221439.GA59524@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20131221230448.GA61511@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <52B62130.5060802@freebsd.org> <20131221232505.GA61672@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20131221232505.GA61672@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Darren Pilgrim X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 23:29:26 -0000 On 12/22/2013 12:25 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:16:00AM +0100, Julien Laffaye wrote: >> On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>> this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies, >>> companies can turn it on it they want it. >> And if you want to save the few extra kB, you can turn it off... > I have turned it off. > >>>> secondly I receive tons of request to actiavte on by default while >>>> you are the first to request it off by default >>> I certainly can't refute 'tons of [private] requests'. There is >>> no discussing of such logging in freebsd-current, freebsd-hackers, >>> or freebsd-ports lists. >>> >>> Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide >>> that 'pkg info' doesn't! Please turn of this feature by default. >>> >> Actually, you are the one making noise... > What does this logging in /var/log/message provide that is > not provided by 'pkg info'? It is useless noise. > Forensics ?