From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 25 20:03:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6384216A46D; Fri, 25 May 2007 20:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E6113C45D; Fri, 25 May 2007 20:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AA81A3C19; Fri, 25 May 2007 13:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6297D513C6; Fri, 25 May 2007 16:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:03:42 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Michael Nottebrock Message-ID: <20070525200342.GA85138@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <200705251857.20933.lofi@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200705251857.20933.lofi@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: lesi@freebsd.org, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, flz@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Future of XFree86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 20:03:43 -0000 --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 06:57:17PM +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote: > Today I started out to replace all the old 'USE_XLIB' macros in the KDE p= orts,=20 > the Qt ports and all the ports which are in Qt's and KDE's dependency pat= h=20 > with dependencies on the individual Xorg ports, until it dawned on me tha= t=20 > this would effectively desupport XFree86. >=20 > So, before I go on or throw away all patches I've made so far: Does XFree= 86=20 > have a future as a 'supported' X implementation in ports (where supported= =20 > means that certain macros like USE_XLIB work for both Xorg and XFree86) a= nd=20 > is using direct dependencies on the modular X.org ports desired at all? The lack of interest shown by the FreeBSD community towards retaining support for XFree86 means that we are currently intending to remove it on the usual timescale of a few months. Moving to a model of direct dependencies on the modular X.org ports is something to explore in the future, but it will be a huge amount of work to get right and to maintain (i.e. new port submissions will tend to be missing a correct set of X dependencies), and it may be that the best solution is some kind of compromise where certain things can be made optional but most things remain installed by default. Kris --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGV0EeWry0BWjoQKURApgCAKDl1BWoB3lH0cgorfe+JPNyBVL1fwCfWjqI HUZD1dA+v1YNDYVAetRRs2k= =HNUM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT--