From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 29 08:22:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12771 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12547; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA27782; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:20:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA26782; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:20:08 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:20:08 -0600 Message-Id: <199807291520.JAA26782@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Flemming Jacobsen Cc: dburr@pobox.com (Donald Burr), freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The future of the bt848 driver? (FW: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail) In-Reply-To: <199807290915.LAA02623@login.dknet.dk> References: <199807290915.LAA02623@login.dknet.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Why did it have to come down to this, anyway? (Enquiring minds want to > > know...) > > Since it's unlikely that any of the three will comment, I'll > share what I know. > > I've known PHK since highschool, and Soeren for a couple of > years, thus when I saw Amancios post on -multimedia I sent them a > mail which (in essence) said "What the fuck are you two bozos > doing ?". We exchanged a flurry of emails that day (Fri 17) - > sharing main language and timezone works wonders for communication. > > What happened seem to be: > Soeren sent Amancio a patch to get his AVer Media card working > (10 lines added to the card table). > After waiting for 1+ months, Soeren checked it in himself. > Amancio didn't like this and wanted to back it out, but was > told by PHK that this was unacceptable unless he added the same > functionality. > Amancio couldn't accept this, and walked out. Yep. The only thing I want to point out is that both PHK and S'ren both threw out the "I'm a core member and you better do what I tell you else we'll yank your commit privileges" bit, which rubs *everyone* wrong. This isn't the first time they've been heavy-handed about it, nor will it be the last. It annoys me that they can do *wrong* things in many people's minds and justify them by being a 'core' member. Being a core member doesn't make it right anymore than just because they company is named Microsoft makes everything they do wrong. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message