From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 9 15:59:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BA1CC0 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 15:59:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@catnook.com) Received: from mail-pd0-f181.google.com (mail-pd0-f181.google.com [209.85.192.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DD8A2105 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 15:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pd0-f181.google.com with SMTP id g10so1143873pdj.12 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:59:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZYc5czi/frAkEleKEUKJbGjpSu0isYJ9r1BWEX/uipc=; b=fjTfBGzunGarA/7CGMSaKuVKvE9MfCTg2qJaOcnpefKOTavMuUsmjSH2+6/V9Lko8F b344sAP6RoDB7kep4VlMWtfkJJ49jam7Y/n1eA8CRexafOhCM79mxRFM3rUwx3VInoGU vOXz24WgBv8/V9BHcS5IQauqJTbJ1fZKMZ8hvFYvWSx37F190yyanCGC0+lJSgFwUKH6 m3sZLZ2hlzPDIuAZ4k0wW3yYjFGFs1wsjO5NHS8vzMaU7kg6x3BlpItf9f05Mloksy+z 9ty+4cG/w8P2rA5trFJTxCieh9DKzljMNgZj3ooWj5gF1qboR09i0oKDIcxUHMGtGtM1 ixlA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl09Dr0/CMjeXQdlAzCABe+UYjxqtma/e2ZnsAHIgLyF4CyFwkUuCoHIsNxxaBFFyesFoYK MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.182.3 with SMTP id ea3mr8813363pbc.124.1381334383460; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.36 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.49.36 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:59:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <77307DF8-637D-4295-BF47-8742F1552CE8@orthanc.ca> <525503A2.50002@beastielabs.net> <525537F5.1050100@m5p.com> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:59:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: rcs From: Jos Backus To: Kimmo Paasiala Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: George Mitchell , freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:59:44 -0000 On Oct 9, 2013 5:39 AM, "Kimmo Paasiala" wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM, George Mitchell wrote: > > On 10/09/13 03:20, Hans Ottevanger wrote: > >> > >> On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > >>> > >>> Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? > >>> > >>> The proponents wanting to remove RCS need to speak up and make their > >>> technical case. > >>> > >> > >> Technically it is quite simple: I need RCS to start versioning config > >> files, even before starting any customization. I know about several > >> others who do the same (and have not yet defected to Linux). > >> > >> I would like to see RCS to be put back into the tree for 10.0. If it > >> really -has- to be victimized by the current anti-GPL crusade, it could > >> be replaced by OpenRCS in 11. > >> > >> And as a long time hard-core user I would appreciate if this kind of > >> changes were performed only after at least -some- public discussion. > >> The way this change was sneaked in (though apparently with approval of > >> core@), reminds me more of a Secret Society than of an Open Source > >> project. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Hans > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > +1, enthusiastically. -- George > > > > +1 also to OpenRCS allthough I hate anything related to RCS/CVS with a > passion. I do however recognize the need for a simple revision control > system in the base, svnlite would fill the need maybe but it's good to > have other options too. > > -Kimmo OK, but please, can we replace RCS with Fossil in 11 then? That adds a real improvement to FreeBSD while giving people plenty of time to prepare. Jos