From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Dec 3 18:51:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B48132F43C for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x936.google.com (mail-ua1-x936.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::936]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BDD58EBED for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from va6bmj@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x936.google.com with SMTP id d2so4824197ual.2 for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 10:51:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=oF280tKRyvfcGXh6NiZJSbYcqdSqIeFYa8Dx3j7NG3k=; b=kFXZQJO3jr4/B6sXIk9hjCcBjc4cMdYxvYsBj/NnhpUbm59eN4MJ7Q02fU6BQeyUPz Ue1cF/1Ov/pkfVF/NlJyZUaBAan8CNyMEdHCr/TX+1t1xvlnzITvcwgwg5f8pU86bmvg XA77SPoXlvphDnYrX+OtWvt0lhHpfSX2Pvr6Mme8WNewiHPbJfq8THAQCWtd8s5NxbBW 9r0aOApieNbeYJ9ELk6KPeTH4mTzEDL1Q3217uN61LkELJhLpbxE7o31L87MfTb8DLJg HRfKvobu5fKi7aLIpQVZAmsI5KCzF5GK9d04JbX25nYqXIplZbENd1bLs5Snqf2NBThC Ix3Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=oF280tKRyvfcGXh6NiZJSbYcqdSqIeFYa8Dx3j7NG3k=; b=RqJaYNq6TXPp/aHPLX14SqpGu8iqFgy4J9fMOTkwhYxexwkr/3WlrW8fosLyqCoMS2 QvN6ef5Z6TrX0xJ7E0akdqFOeS5uJxFYzqGAACGuEv5g2bfaDxZ75ynYeJ9kTPEQZRIw zjfzNPyWG82U6tKb4U70hXlJgNaOuTZexr8MXgH2yvQKM8Bw1DwJLrrXwfTxzZBSzQI8 5Kb1XEqn0IHfb44lfxQu5nNrgPYAz1J0suSBlQfLKwFZm00GkI/OD51aLwxY5qVxJEqz F1vNi+ZQ1C6qtNaawGIefNp99NgbiDXkesItZ7XNEyKRjUsxQN3+OPBZOnZ++5RonE0Q 4s4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWa55Mt2KERvNRFYPEBq8keYDTgHXJG536Be74JaFHavr5ZEdBXd AjvIe6FM0m6+Lx7gUSW+TCNSsESSQrC2a9MoS3Ju9ZUj X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/WgihV+Be/14QfUkEedIwAwNMYeGzqPccTxrBs4lWP2TzeievM0JxEXsusNLXtdwl/wJO6UXxxvh98NofSPN+s= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:3b7:: with SMTP id 52mr7899746uau.38.1543863114264; Mon, 03 Dec 2018 10:51:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:57da:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Dec 2018 10:51:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20181203184153.b37810d9.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20181202231414.bc873ae8.freebsd@edvax.de> <3b1f0a32-175e-2535-ce70-ac8935cf85eb@yandex.com> <20181203184153.b37810d9.freebsd@edvax.de> From: B J Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:51:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fresh Installation Of FreeBSD 11.2--Mate Not Working Properly To: Polytropon Cc: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2BDD58EBED X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.57 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[6.3.9.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.953,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-0.61)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-1.65), asn: 15169(-1.29), country: US(-0.09)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2018 18:51:56 -0000 On 12/3/18, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 02:42:19 +0000, B J wrote: >> I just installed Xcfe and it appears to be running properly. It looks >> like I might have to consider looking at replacing that machine with >> something newer. > > For better diagnostics, use the following entry in ~/.xinitrc: > > exec xterm > > Then use "startx", and run "mate-session" from within the > terminal. You should be able to see _why_ MATE isn't starting > properly, while Xfce does. Thanks for the tip. I might try it in after I return from working on my father's house. > > AS I said in a previous message, the age of the system probably > is not the reason for MATE not working. Maybe something has > changed in its configuration, so maybe renaming MATE's settings > subtree to .old and starting with no configuration at all will > work. Incompatibility of older settings sometimes leads to > software not starting after an upgrade (e. g., CUPS). So this > is something you could try. My original installation was FreeBSD 10.x. i suspect that a few things changed in subsequent versions so a brand-new installation might have incompatibilities. Meanwhile, I'm running my machine off the backup HD. BMJ