From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 31 21:03:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273EF106566C for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:03:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-301.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-301.bluehost.com [67.222.53.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC3718FC15 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 5984 invoked by uid 0); 31 Jul 2009 21:03:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by outboundproxy6.bluehost.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2009 21:03:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=UXSyJyavKWLh+r26dF94mXpoFqdrQ+Og2JSCGfRS5yIOZtdqY/K84u2l0cOyN5FVbf+vxkKFBbqAfOzIXY/ha3v5Fj05efJ5yp98GEfIooWXCtU7GOIeaGo6jJmrQALy; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MWzGV-0006VP-8K for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:03:47 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:56:36 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090731205636.GB44613@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090731085553.461f73be.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731114711.49d94196.freebsd@edvax.de> <20090731170422.0574fef5.cyb.@gmx.net> <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E39vaYmALEf/7YXx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090731221532.ab004d5b.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Looking for fast graphical web browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:03:48 -0000 --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:15:32PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:04:22 +0200, Andreas Rudisch <"cyb."@gmx.net> wrot= e: > >=20 > > I never get the argument about 'bloatware' when it comes to Opera. >=20 > Only for newer versions. I found the older versions a bit easier > to configure, especially the Options dialog was better organized. > But as I mentioned "bloat" (NB the quotes), it's just that there's > much more functionality in Opera, making it run slower (on the same > system), but finally, it runs *much* faster than Firefox, I think. I don't find that it runs much faster than Firefox. In fact, in recent versions, it runs slower sometimes -- though still marginally faster more often than not. >=20 > > And there are a lot of features in Opera, for which you will need to > > download extra extensions in Firefox. >=20 > Exactly. I know, for example, that there are mouse gestures in Firefox, > too. But they are not built-in. My main argument for Opera is the > excellent combination of mouse and KEYBOARD support. I'm using the > english version because the shortcuts and keystrokes are more > intuitive than in the german version. I have the opposite experience: Opera lacks keyboard shortcuts for a lot of what I do in Firefox. A nice touch shared by Firefox and Chrome, but not by anything else I've used (including Opera, IE, Midori, et cetera) is the set of keyboard shortcuts for URL construction. For instance, if you enter: freebsd =2E . . then press +, it automatically navigates to: www.freebsd.com =2E . . or press +, it automatically navigates to: www.freebsd.net =2E . . or press ++, it automatically navigates to: www.freebsd.org >=20 > Firefox even seems to lack a key to quit the program. :-) That's easy. Just press + and it'll close Firefox immediately. >=20 > > Anyway, in the end everyone should use what he likes best. :) >=20 > Of course. :-) =2E . . just as soon as it gets ported to FreeBSD. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth markinct @techrepublic.com: "Don't take anything you do on-line lightly. 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