From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 20 12:44:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C0C1065674 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92CFE8FC21 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2KCiMTN082753; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:44:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2KCiMkQ082750; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:44:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:44:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Keith Seyffarth In-Reply-To: <20090320071537.31022A1F0B@maxine.cjones.org> Message-ID: References: <20090313154130.3D96EA26DB@maxine.cjones.org> <49BA87D5.3080000@gmail.com> <20090313204825.E64BCA2718@maxine.cjones.org> <49BACEF0.8070905@gmail.com> <20090313223308.3B98CA2723@maxine.cjones.org> <49BAE3C0.9090000@gmail.com> <20090314043421.12C61A24F7@maxine.cjones.org> <49BB4762.7020405@a1poweruser.com> <20090314064658.1F188A25F3@maxine.cjones.org> <49BB57EF.2060303@a1poweruser.com> <20090314214353.54DFEA2786@maxine.cjones.org> <20090315160652.AB8A0A27F4@maxine.cjones.org> <20090320071537.31022A1F0B@maxine.cjones.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:44:22 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: issues in XFCE 4.6 (looking for a working WM) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:44:24 -0000 On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Keith Seyffarth wrote: > At this point, I guess I'm looking for recommendations on a window > manager. > > Here are the major problems with XFCE4 4.6: > > * < 20% probability of starting X without crashing and locking > computer > * 20-25 minutes to start X (was about 1 under XFCE4 4.4) > * 0% chance of shutting down successfully if X is running > * can't exit X once started (switches monitor to power save mode and > hangs) > * maximum run time of 8 hours (average around 5 hours) > * won't save settings xfce-4.6 is running here on a couple of machines, with none of those problems. Those actually sound more like xorg problems. > and a couple minor ones: > > * XFCE menu doesn't work Which one? In what way? I miss the menu editor... > * missing icons, even after theme is changed from rodent to tango Had to manually set the icons in the panel for xterm, mousepad, thunar, and firefox. I think I switched back to Rodent after not liking the Tango icons, but only GNOME and Tango show in Settings/Appearance/Icons. > None of these were issues under XFCE4 4.4, but I'm guessing there's > not a good way to get 4.4 back... portdowngrade and some work can probably do it. If your problems are really xorg related, changing window manager won't help. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA