From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 3 1:38:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCF014F2A for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 01:38:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA23387; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:06:38 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id TAA02520; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:06:36 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19990403190636.F2142@lemis.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:06:36 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Darren Pilgrim , Sue Blake Cc: George Halek , newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Which mailing list? (was: handling posting errors [was: Disk geometry question.]) References: <37055859.E945BB40@uswest.net> <19990403151145.59606@welearn.com.au> <3705C8A9.747F784D@uswest.net> <19990403185229.63533@welearn.com.au> <3705DCB1.640B948D@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <3705DCB1.640B948D@uswest.net>; from Darren Pilgrim on Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 01:17:37AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 3 April 1999 at 1:17:37 -0800, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > Sue Blake wrote: >> If you are able and willing to answer support questions, your interest >> in newbies will be most valuable in freebsd-questions. We need more >> newbies to be seen asking questions there and to be seen getting >> answers, since it is supposed to support the _whole_ user community. > > I do answer questions in -questions, and I often answer the ones that > no one else seems willing to answer because they're considered "stupid > newbie questions" by people who seem to have forgotten what it's like > to be a newbie. This is an assumption on your part. More likely they don't know the answer, or they assume that somebody else will answer. > My day job involves helping people solve problems and find answers > and every day I hear them ask me what I used to ask, see them have > trouble with things I used to worry over. I see myself in them and > for that reason I take the time to help them. I just wish the > tribal elders would clue into the fact that they're denying others > the things that they take for granted. I'm not sure I understand who you're referring to here. Care to explain? Certainly the "tribal elders", whoever they may be, are not denying people anything. If you're referring to Sue, she's doing a good job in trying to differentiate between a mailing list for newbies to discuss their attitude to FreeBSD (newbies) and a mailing list for newbies (and everybody else) to ask moderately technical questions (-questions). As part of the bargain, those who regularly answer questions in -questions have agreed not to answer questions in -newbies. This is all in the charter, and it has the benefit that the lurkers in -questions get to see the answers. It also helps ensure that people don't get too many wrong answers. >> If you feel sufficiently familiar with the list charters to gently guide >> newbies to the appropriate use of the lists, don't let anyone make you >> feel bad because of _their_ misunderstandings. > > But I'm human, not a sterile man page or a printed manual, it hurts > everytime I get shot down for trying to help out. Nobody's shooting you down for helping out. You said yourself that you answer questions in -questions, and that's the right thing to do. The only thing that Sue was asking you to do was to adhere to the conventions. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message