From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 28 15:46:48 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636CB106564A for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost1.sentex.ca (smarthost1-6.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F008FC18 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:46:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a] (saphire3.sentex.ca [IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:4:f025:8813:7603:7e4a]) by smarthost1.sentex.ca (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p7SFkiZA079023 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:46:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-ID: <4E5A62DA.8080501@sentex.net> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:46:34 -0400 From: Mike Tancsa Organization: Sentex Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <201108272301.RAA02327@lariat.net> <20110828074337.aca652f9.freebsd@edvax.de> <201108281521.JAA07337@lariat.net> In-Reply-To: <201108281521.JAA07337@lariat.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on IPv6:2607:f3e0:0:1::12 Cc: Subject: Re: System hanging, error messages with USB drive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:46:48 -0000 On 8/28/2011 11:20 AM, Brett Glass wrote: > At 11:43 PM 8/27/2011, Polytropon wrote: > >> I'm not sure if this will help you, but I also had similar >> problems with a Kingston USB stick (normal storage stick, >> no removable microSD card). It didn't work on any of my >> FreeBSD systems. So I finally returned it to the shop and >> got a Sony USB stick instead - no problems, works fine. >> >> So this is my assumption: Some hardware vendors maybe >> improperly implement the USB protocol in their devices, > > A Web search reveals that there are dozens which apparently > have problems with FreeBSD, while Windows has problems with > none of them. This leads me to believe that the problem is > in FreeBSD, not the hardware. The vendors most probably write their own drivers for windows. They do not for FreeBSD and its best effort for FreeBSD. I have yet to come across a USB umass device that needs a quirks setting to make it work. But I am sure there are many out there as there are dozens of different vendors/OEMs out there of all sorts of quality. Having to deal with the edge cases using a single command is perfectly acceptable to me. If setting a quirks value for FreeBSD is not workable for you, perhaps Windows is a better choice for your use. ---Mike -- ------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Sentex Communications, mike@sentex.net Providing Internet services since 1994 www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada http://www.tancsa.com/