From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Thu Oct 22 14:03:06 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262954498C5 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcy@druid.net) Received: from mail.vex.net (mail.vex.net [98.158.139.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CH8G11D9xz3gG1 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcy@druid.net) Received: from imp.druid.net (unknown [98.158.128.36]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: darcy) by mail.vex.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C84E3DA9C; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 10:03:03 -0400 (EDT) To: Jason Tubnor Cc: "Patrick M. Hausen" , "freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org" References: <57c32e6d-5572-3d3b-1a57-f3064bee7dc2@druid.net> <20201020065630.GE8272@funkthat.com> <3ed627e2-d99a-107e-4135-8aef1ad4ec71@druid.net> <30A67F82-312E-4651-A5E7-2E2AD926FF24@punkt.de> <973b1b56-817f-6976-e5d3-34cfbc373b13@druid.net> <723CA318-80E9-4A6B-91ED-E791A40CC2C0@punkt.de> <6267599d-bc0c-6d63-bb19-1fc695e53997@druid.net> From: D'Arcy Cain Autocrypt: addr=darcy@druid.net; keydata= xjMEXu32OxYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAD839OEQVMqCs45KVwLKg4srvl51WsVhMpTGOd9z3Ym3N HUQnQXJjeSBDYWluIDxkYXJjeUBkcnVpZC5uZXQ+wpYEExYIAD4WIQSQJTNYM0vv3aTmBCs/ 5DDweYZnXQUCXu32OwIbAwUJCWYBgAULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRA/5DDw eYZnXWAxAP9cDL1j4koUFRBNQyC4iMp/cx5KnozmtsFtiTrWdZBrIwD6A2rLFx60tJryd/qp SZpXk7UPDLH/PY1hstjx9WUbXQjOOARe7fY7EgorBgEEAZdVAQUBAQdAbK0SOaTRrkI2QAWz rCz29D2RDOgGTvEbDpyWiyA5RhQDAQgHwn4EGBYIACYWIQSQJTNYM0vv3aTmBCs/5DDweYZn XQUCXu32OwIbDAUJCWYBgAAKCRA/5DDweYZnXaNOAQDC77ymNjoMZQVgDCcmgZEk6IZxn45k nyW17OYCpRctvgD9Fg3aocAbHK7V9AhmSbDPxLNQygQUPjjU7Cyn97b1cQs= Subject: Re: When is a switch not a switch? 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References: <57c32e6d-5572-3d3b-1a57-f3064bee7dc2@druid.net> <20201020065630.GE8272@funkthat.com> <3ed627e2-d99a-107e-4135-8aef1ad4ec71@druid.net> <30A67F82-312E-4651-A5E7-2E2AD926FF24@punkt.de> <973b1b56-817f-6976-e5d3-34cfbc373b13@druid.net> <723CA318-80E9-4A6B-91ED-E791A40CC2C0@punkt.de> <6267599d-bc0c-6d63-bb19-1fc695e53997@druid.net> In-Reply-To: --Iuj4QjErnR6RKdLFKD9UAonvqgIFjeGVy Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------47019A699F3C4F200A021DDF" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------47019A699F3C4F200A021DDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/21/20 11:16 PM, Jason Tubnor wrote: > public: flags=3D8843 metric= 0 mtu 1500 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ether 02:9d:b2:b8:78:00 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0inet 98.158.139.65 netmask 0xfff= fffe0 broadcast 98.158.139.95 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32= 768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp m= axaddr 2000 timeout 1200 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priori= ty 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0member: eth0 flags=3D143 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ifma= xaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 55 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0groups: bridge > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0nd6 options=3D9 > tap0: flags=3D8843 metric 0= mtu 1500 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0description: vmnet-BASE-0-public= > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0options=3D80000 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ether 00:bd:5f:56:f8:00 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0groups: tap vm-port > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0media: Ethernet autoselect > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0status: active > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0nd6 options=3D29 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Opened by PID 3679 >=20 >=20 > tap0 is not a member of public so has no way to get to eth0 or public. Odd. I thought that vm-bhyve did that when the VM came up. Hmm. It looks like tap0 gets attached to vm-public if it is configured t= o=20 attach to public. Perhaps I just need to name the bridge that way. > I'd avoid creating the 'public' bridge and let vm-bhyve create it. =20 > Something like: >=20 > vm switch create public > vm switch add public eth0 But then I can't create the IP on the host until too late in the boot. I= =20 assume that you mean to do that in rc.local. Are you sure that the above= is=20 any different than what I did? > Then for the guest: >=20 > vm add -d network -s public Hard to automate when VM can migrate to another host. --=20 D'Arcy J.M. Cain | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on +1 416 788 2246 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner. IM: darcy@VybeNetworks.com, VoIP: sip:darcy@druid.net Disclaimer: By sending an email to ANY of my addresses you are agreeing that: 1. I am by definition, "the intended recipient". 2. 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