From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 21:24:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9107216A401 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A88313C4AE for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so1139424ana for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OLuZ/hEg5AK+762ZXSYdMUb+YRPRgCSy01UUC7ZoFA9fth/HWNzzNG5J7od6mqMJxjXq6g4O5ufg9k1Ppgsbsua3+TB3gNaluKDSZQZ6XdclM4QfcEhr6kp2qUGmNzT3ofWYiy8UjnMIupSJqPOMNejO8Nq7aN3hXKM91WOAfDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mvsKeIQAhWuXpY3HDuML4dOU/FzYY6Xb5bWcwYwSABvjeD+O8hDli9BK2d2nguUE3wP8q6sH8fBePzSjl6VrBHo21rAYIh0G4X3ZlfSdcdlhQIqIOdBO2BLZAtM59nXJ7JGO3/+dD9EgiC0C8sRPeqgMjCcN//5z2hVSSJbbOLY= Received: by 10.100.142.12 with SMTP id p12mr2369102and.1175894688636; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.109.12 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:24:48 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Erik Osterholm" , "Nikolas Britton" , "FreeBSD Current" In-Reply-To: <20070406202847.GA91533@idoru.cepheid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070406142326.GC6950@hoeg.nl> <20070406153500.GE6950@hoeg.nl> <46166A5E.3090009@samsco.org> <461697C3.8000700@elischer.org> <20070406202847.GA91533@idoru.cepheid.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:24:49 -0000 On 4/6/07, Erik Osterholm wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 03:23:14PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > On 4/6/07, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > > >I think some of the frustration people have shown with you is because > > >you don't seem to appreciate how much this issue is constantly thought > > >about and how the current state is not just an "accident of history". > > > > > >We have a LOT of old systems running around the world. > > > > > > > But the old systems don't need the latest and greatest copy of > > FreeBSD! This is why we provide errata / security fixes. The systems > > are a static non moving target ??? > > Ah, but old systems are the most likely to see a significant benefit > from performance improvements. > If you want more performance I have a bunch of i386, i486, pentium, pentium pro, and pentium II systems you can have, for free (you pay shipping). For some weird reason people just keep giving them me and my basement is filled up with them. I can't fined any useful use for all of them so most stay in the basement collecting dust and rust. The ones I can use are setup for a particular task and I won't mess with it unless it breaks.