From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 13 2:31:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from swan.au.en-bio.com (swan.en-bio.COM.AU [203.35.254.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A685537B71D for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 02:31:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from TMaher@entigen.com) Received: from shad.au.int.en-bio.com (www-cache.au.en-bio.com [203.35.254.2]) by swan.au.en-bio.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA05825 for ; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:31:47 +1100 Received: (from tonym@localhost) by shad.au.int.en-bio.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id VAA16508 for mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:32:47 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:32:47 +1100 (EST) From: Tony Maher Message-Id: <200103131032.VAA16508@shad.au.int.en-bio.com> To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bridging with 3C589D-COMBO on 4.2-RELEASE? Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nate Williams wrote: > > Is this at all normal? > > Is it at all normal for folks with laptops? > > In the last 4 years on my laptop, I've had 3 crashes, and two of them > were related to running the machine completely out of memory. Newer > versions of FreeBSD have patches that Matt Dillon wrote to fix these > kind of crashes, but I wasn't then (nor am now) running a version with > this fix. > > FreeBSD *rarely* if ever crashes on properly configured, correctly > functioning hardware. If you mis-configure things such as VMWARE which > get very cozy with the kernel and hardware, you will see crashes. > > My very strong suspicion is that you're boxed is misconfigured. I am not sure I would necessarily come to that conclusion. My own experience has been that desktop/server boxes are extremely stable (its hard to remember when one crashed) but my laptop crashes more often. Suspending while ppp is running is sure to do it (so I dont do that!). But sometimes after disconnecting from network and moving to another desk and forgetting to plug back in and just leaving it sit, it just reboots after a while (sometimes). (actually have crashdump of this last one - but I could not get anything out of it that made sense - but that could just be my inexperience) Maybe its just the particular laptop that gives trouble (mine is Dell inspiron 3500). In doing a little testing for Boris Popov smbfs work he discovered a certain problem only existed with Dell notebooks, his comment "Wow, in all cases this is a Dell notebooks..." The only common thing appears to be changes in network but nothing reproducable (except for the smbfs early versions and suspending while using ppp). But its less than 1 crash a month and the laptops in use home/work 7 days a week. It could be random hardware failure but the correlation with network changes tends to rule it out. just my 2c tonym ps. also more rarely I get an X problem that screws the machine too. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message