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Date:      Thu, 24 May 2012 12:04:21 +0400
From:      Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "Steven Hartland" <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: UFS+J panics on HEAD
Message-ID:  <1239922227.20120524120421@serebryakov.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <8D72700F5CA4461BAD1C98908689CB9E@multiplay.co.uk>
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Hello, Steven.
You wrote 24 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=8F 2012 =D0=B3., 1:58:48:

SH> While it might be a shame to see FFS go by the wayside are there any
SH> big reasons why you would rather stick with FFS instead of moving
SH> to ZFS with all the benefits that brings?
  I afraid, that after real hardware failure (like real HDD death,
not these pseudo-broken-hardware situations, when HDDs is perfectly
alive and in good condition), all data will be lost. I could restore
data from remains of FFS by hands (format is straightforward and
well-known), but ZFS is different story...

 And all these messages about panics after pool import... Yes, it
could be result of REAL hardware problems, but I want to have some
hope to restore some of the data after such crashes.

 Yes, backups is solution, but I don't have money to buy (reliable)
hardware to backup 4Tb of data :(

 I attended "Solaris internals" 5-days training four years ago (when I
worked for Sun Microsystems), and instructor says same words...


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// Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org>




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