From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 14 20:36:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B335316A4CE for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 20:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net (turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E67143D2F for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 20:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@online.fr) Received: from user-0cdfepc.cable.mindspring.com ([24.215.187.44] helo=bluerondo) by turkey.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BOpyq-0001JB-00 for chat@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 May 2004 20:36:56 -0700 Received: (qmail 1694 invoked by uid 1002); 15 May 2004 03:36:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 23:36:48 -0400 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Colin Percival Message-ID: <20040515033648.GA1667@online.fr> References: <40A48806.101@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> <6.1.0.6.1.20040514095157.03e2a4d0@popserver.sfu.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.1.20040514095157.03e2a4d0@popserver.sfu.ca> X-Operating-System: DragonFly 1.0-CURRENT i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: chat@freebsd.org cc: Mark Ovens Subject: Re: Threat to FreeBSD in Europe? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 03:36:57 -0000 > Wake up guys; if Free Software is going to succeed, it has to innovate > for itself. And, whatever some people may think, looking at someone else's > wheel, building your own, and then giving it away for free does not > constitute innovation. Here's what Robert Cringely wrote some months ago, of the word "innovation": This word, which was hardly used at all until two or three years ago, feels to me like a propaganda campaign and a successful one at that, dominating discussion in the computer industry. I think Microsoft did this intentionally, for they are the ones who seem to continually use the word. But what does it mean? And how is it different from what we might have said before? I think the word they are replacing is "invention." Bill Shockley invented the transistor, Gordon Moore and Bob Noyce invented the integrated circuit, Ted Hof invented the microprocessor. Of course others claimed to have done those same three things, but the goal was always invention. Only now we innovate, which is deliberately vague but seems to stop somewhere short of invention. Innovators have wiggle room. They can steal ideas, for example, and pawn them off as their own. That's the intersection of innovation and sharp business. http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20030904.html Rahul