From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 4 07:42:42 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78E0678C96 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 07:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4HNCNy052hz3qHn for ; Mon, 4 Oct 2021 07:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=zKylwdDsZWe6MH11NB0AhgaYovl89uvorKI5ZEA37Yk=; b=v+zKe6NzimgmW9Wzl7tfafvI9Q AyiCHj0aCUiR2sl0SJOxU9k2LF0LKP6TzY5tcqJ3H5aylKQwbjBG8JEWGKuxIdJPjKesM0/4eIIbZ qZh/S2fgY1bvXy0hs5zcOOm7BWoAcai6tS7QZRsYq0tM6xA6gdCDt+j5VsvTmjjnX/Y1e3ENcWe+E 5rDb88lottnrFphzSlAC0hYAhxeqtojjQ+DCcN3hBHqqB5YLd0fNpAUSR2lIXSokpovDeb9twYpP1 M7gI58c2BiZQSVPzXKYDgt1OlXnqdJntVFr4EA9Rs4QVZE7dY80pVvCI891uaQTh+NUPmRslix1Dv E8Uz6xWw==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id R0G031-0010RB-CX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:42:37 +0200 Message-ID: <69f7c781-4cc0-24cd-1e19-2e39dca7e87a@tinka.africa> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 09:42:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.1.2 Subject: Re: Upgrade without Internet access Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <175e70ff-318b-8380-80ec-cf3b98b6073a@tundraware.com> <29fc4432-9f33-df5b-7e9a-fce318e426ae@tinka.africa> <20211003175900.55d3ed481e14a4f876027836@sohara.org> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: <20211003175900.55d3ed481e14a4f876027836@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4HNCNy052hz3qHn X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=v+zKe6Nz; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2021 07:42:42 -0000 On 10/3/21 18:59, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > Interesting contrast that ;) > > I use packages and freebsd-update having started with source and > ports back in the 1.1 days and gone through the coff/elf switch. The > convenience and reliability of both of the binary approaches is a delight > compared to some of the nightmares I've encountered over the years. Yeah, I see that packages are quickly becoming more popular. I guess I just love watching things build at my will. I have noticed, though, that there seems to be some delays for binaries to become available after release compared to ports. I'm not sure what the release strategy is as I don't use packages, but I've spoken with friends who are normally a week or two later for the same apps we both use. > It can be done, you can download the packages to a local > repository or use poudriere to maintain your own package repository custom > built from ports with your favourite options. Awesome! Mark.