From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Wed Jul 18 09:06:50 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285FD103FF77; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@freebsd.org) Received: from shell1.rawbw.com (shell1.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD635706E1; Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@freebsd.org) Received: from yv.noip.me (c-24-4-131-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.4.131.132]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id w6I96lbr077792 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yuri@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host c-24-4-131-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.4.131.132] claimed to be yv.noip.me Reply-To: yuri@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r474820 - in head/graphics: . diff-pdf To: Mathieu Arnold Cc: Jochen Neumeister , Kurt Jaeger , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201807171752.w6HHqPGY086343@repo.freebsd.org> <20180717205936.vknaxlrewnjv5rsc@atuin.in.mat.cc> <98365d7c-b252-f0b6-77ee-fe7e37474e33@freebsd.org> <20180718072531.kauobgwo5xidvv5j@atuin.in.mat.cc> <20180718075950.GY967@fc.opsec.eu> <20180718080825.pfvoiusov34egc7w@atuin.in.mat.cc> <3219a754-36a8-911b-b768-902793c13df0@FreeBSD.org> <20180718082400.5h5jmrd47khgxz2r@atuin.in.mat.cc> <20180718085329.ibdq4so2akr6nxum@atuin.in.mat.cc> From: Yuri Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:06:46 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180718085329.ibdq4so2akr6nxum@atuin.in.mat.cc> Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 09:06:50 -0000 On 07/18/18 01:53, Mathieu Arnold wrote: >> When the port is submitted but not yet committed, the submitter is >> technically not a maintainer yet, so the above link doesn't apply. > He is, and it does. > >> There is also this section: >> >>> We reserve the right to modify the maintainer's submission to better match >> existing policies and style of the Ports Collection without explicit >> blessing from the submitter or the maintainer. > This talks about*style* and*policies* updating the version without the > maintainer's approval is neither. Most ports are submitted in a very poor shape. They don't build, don't pass stage qa, don't pass poudriere build, install things under /lib, and have all sorts of problems. This is the reality. In order to commit them, they usually require a lot of work. Sometimes a dozen of changes or more that often go way beyond the "limited set of things" mentioned in the above post. If all these changes require submitter's approval, this makes it a very impractical process. I would rather move on and not take such submissions. Your concern is that the submitter would disagree and would feel bad? But this never happened in practice. Nobody ever complained about the version change, so you worry about the problem that doesn't even exist. Yuri