From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 13:40:31 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A787416A4CE; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [212.192.164.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BA943D1D; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:40:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from iclub.nsu.ru ([193.124.215.97] ident=root) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1AyHf5-0002Pv-56; Wed, 03 Mar 2004 03:42:47 +0600 Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (fjoe@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i22LeQYw043091; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 03:40:26 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: (from fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i22LeMV9043090; Wed, 3 Mar 2004 03:40:22 +0600 (NS) (envelope-from fjoe) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 03:40:22 +0600 From: Max Khon To: Andre Oppermann Message-ID: <20040302214022.GC42471@iclub.nsu.ru> References: <4043B6BA.B847F081@freebsd.org> <00d301c40089$8a035410$c000000a@jd2400> <4044F8E1.F10CFD37@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4044F8E1.F10CFD37@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" cc: James Read cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My planned work on networking stack (vimage) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 21:40:31 -0000 Hello! On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 10:13:05PM +0100, Andre Oppermann wrote: > The patch set is pretty extensive and intrusive and only for 4.x. Adding > locking for 5.x would be a pretty nice challenge as well and not easy to > get right for all cases. > > > This is one thing that I would like to use, without patching systems. But > > then thats just my 'wish list' opinion of it. > > I think is makes more sense to get something like userland BSD. Userland BSD might need too many resources. Think of hosting providers who run hundreds or thousands of virtual hosts in a jail. Please take a look at commercial solutions like FreeVPS by H-Sphere or Virtuozzo by SWSoft. Virtualized network stack is not an academic-research only feature. /fjoe