From owner-freebsd-java Tue Apr 16 16:10:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.bmi.net (smtp.bmi.net [204.57.191.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98BF37B417; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johncoop.MSHOME ([206.63.201.3]) by smtp.bmi.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15426; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 16:10:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Using NEED_JAVAC in ports From: John Merryweather Cooper Reply-To: john_m_cooper@yahoo.com To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: Ernst de Haan , zach@neurosoft.org, joshua@roughtrade.net, java@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20020416204557.29380.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> References: <200204161951.VAA29489@smtp.hccnet.nl> <20020416201807.16393.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <200204162022.WAA12797@smtp.hccnet.nl> <20020416204557.29380.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 16 Apr 2002 17:10:31 -0600 Message-Id: <1018998636.91799.1.camel@johncoop.MSHOME> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree with lioux--a NEED_JIKES knob would be symmetric and would help clarify in the mind of the porter/maintainer what he/she is really getting when NEED_JAVAC is set. On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 14:45, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 10:21:54PM +0200, Ernst de Haan wrote: > > > > > I would authorize changes on my ports for adding a tweakable > > > need for JAVAC but I would like to understand why would it affect > > > jikes? I really use javac. After all, I don't need jikes in my > > > two affected ports: javadc and jift. > > > What your heuristic for picking either jikes or javac? > > > I am curious. > > > > The behaviour of your port will not change. The behaviour of some other ports > > will change, though. More specifically: The ports that define USE_JAVA but do > > not use ${JAVAC} will not depend on Jikes anymore, even if bsd.java.mk > > previously determined that Jikes should be used if a Java compiler was > > necessary. > > > > The problem is that bsd.java.mk currently sets Jikes as a dependency for any > > port that has USE_JAVA defined and Jikes installed on their system... > > > > Hope this is clear. If it's not, then it's my fault. I'm tired ||-) > > Don't worry. It's my fault: "He who asks the right question, > gets the right answer." > > I was wondering: > > 1) I use javac in one port which is a fact > 2) I do not need any special functionality from jikes > > Therefore, I need javac installed but rather not > depend on jikes... even if it is installed. If it is not installed, > I do not want it to be installed. > > Shouldn't we have both NEED_JAVAC and NEED_JIKES? > > .ifdef(NEED_JIKES) > NEED_JAVAC=yes > JAVAC=jikes > .endif > > Unless, I am mistaking my defining NEED_JAVAC does not > imply in my wanting jikes but rather javac. > > Regards, > > -- > Mario S F Ferreira - DF - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." > Computer Science Undergraduate | FreeBSD Committer | CS Developer > flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org > feature, n: a documented bug | bug, n: an undocumented feature > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message -- _ | |V| / ' || MacroHard -- \ \_| | | \_, || the perfection of form over | ----------------------------------|| substance, marketing over | Web: http://www.borgsdemons.com || performance, and greed over | AIM: johnmcooper || design . . . | =====================================================================/ Public Key: http://www.borgsdemons.com/Personal/pgpkey.asc | =====================================================================\ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message