From owner-freebsd-current Fri Mar 10 19:20: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ren.sasknow.com (h139-142-245-96.ss.fiberone.net [139.142.245.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E1A37BBF9; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:19:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA09842; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:19:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:19:48 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0-20000307-CURRENT kern.flp keyboard probe questions In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20000310202045.00b99ee0@207.227.119.2> Message-ID: Organization: SaskNow Technologies [www.sasknow.com] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote to Mike Smith: > At 05:54 PM 3/10/00 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > >Since you can't safely hot-plug the PC keyboard, that wouldn't be very > >smart. The only way to auto-detect the use of a serial console is to > >look for a keyboard; if one isn't plugged in, there's no local console, > >end of story. > > Can't safely? Why the hell not? > > Been hot-swapping keyboards for many years without *any* problems. Old DIN > style and PS2, doesn't matter. Even Doze doesn't mind. Me as well...For at least a decade. I used to do it manually all the time, but had occasional glitches with funny scan codes and indicator statuses. With a mid-range priced switch, though, I have had no problems whatsoever. > If/when this does change, wishing there will be a way to override back to > the current behaviour. IMO, serial console should be explicitly called for. Amen. If I can't boot a system to the local console without a keyboard, that system isn't very useful. If the default DOES change, you should be able to change your boot.config to remove the -P option. -- Ryan Thompson Systems Administrator, Accounts Phone: +1 (306) 664-1161 SaskNow Technologies http://www.sasknow.com #106-380 3120 8th St E Saskatoon, SK S7H 0W2 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message