From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 5 7:53:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFB437B41C for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 698064A7; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:51:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:51:44 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Cliff Sarginson , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/ Message-ID: <20020305155144.GD17913@genius.tao.org.uk> References: <000c01c1c322$df0f22a0$0101a8c0@noc2> <20020304202541.U91555-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20020305015104.GA40292@core.usrlib.org> <20020305114625.GA11426@raggedclown.net> <20020305144726.B89475@energyhq.homeip.net> <20020305154017.GB17913@genius.tao.org.uk> <20020305164957.A91495@energyhq.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020305164957.A91495@energyhq.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 04:49:57PM +0100, Miguel Mendez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 03:40:17PM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: >=20 > > > Cracker is nothing, just a stupid term made up by journalists and > > > clueless people like Suckomu Shimomura. ;-P > >=20 > > A cracker is someone who breaks software security (usually on games). >=20 > Yeah, that's right. But in the unix world it doesn't really make sense. > Yes, Fravia's pages contain one or two essays where some unix is > involved (I remember FlexLM reverse engineering on HP-UX) but other than > that and a very minimal Linux cracking activity, I haven't seen many > cracking on unix systems. Are Fravia's pages still around? I read them a few years ago, and very good they were too. =20 > As someone pointed out, in this particular case (attacking a freebsd.org > box), should be defined as the action of a script kiddiot. Calling > him/her a hacker would be offensive to real hackers :-)=20 :) Although if they were a 'her', I'd gladly call her a hacker (at least for a night). Joe --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjyE6Y8ACgkQXVIcjOaxUBYNqwCfbnkOR8R9lu4uFdMllyubQ5CB Ps0Ani10KlXCmL87s1WEnKKdpJ2BIUYB =W7NX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YToU2i3Vx8H2dn7O-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message