From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 1 18:29:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0A616A400 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 18:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm-keyword-freebsdhackers.102a7e@mired.org) Received: from mired.org (dsl092-153-074.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.153.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4440743D82 for ; Mon, 1 May 2006 18:29:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mwm-keyword-freebsdhackers.102a7e@mired.org) Received: (qmail 44049 invoked by uid 1001); 1 May 2006 18:29:34 -0000 Received: by bhuda.mired.org (tmda-sendmail, from uid 1001); Mon, 01 May 2006 14:29:32 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <17494.21387.484871.980369@bhuda.mired.org> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 14:29:31 -0400 To: Wilko Bulte In-Reply-To: <20060501180745.GC19342@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <18e02bd30604301409g2691e0cbvce0bbb8e5c5e56b2@mail.gmail.com> <20060430211517.GA11971@freebie.xs4all.nl> <200604302035.50870.slackwarewolf@comcast.net> <86mze2vx38.fsf@xps.des.no> <319cceca0605010623k5bb62479r1ceec72e55b5eca9@mail.gmail.com> <20060501180745.GC19342@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 19) "Constant Variable" XEmacs Lucid X-Primary-Address: mwm@mired.org X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`; h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.0.3 (Seattle Slew) From: Mike Meyer Cc: Maslan , Allen , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Subject: Re: Zero Copy, FreeBSD and Linus Torvalds opinion X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 18:29:45 -0000 In <20060501180745.GC19342@freebie.xs4all.nl>, Wilko Bulte typed: > On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 01:23:40PM +0000, Maslan wrote.. > > On 5/1/06, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > > >Allen writes: > > >> If you watch Revolution OS, Linus points out that his main thing= for > > >> doing Linux was that he wanted something like he had used at the= > > >> university he was at and he says it was SunOS. Sun OS / Solaris,= are > > >> straight BSD. > > > > > >Wrong. Solaris is SysV with some BSD bits tacked on. > > > > > >DES > > >-- > > >Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no > > >_______________________________________________ > > >freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@free= bsd.org" > > > > >=20 > > That's right, but sunos (earlier than solaris) was based on bsd. > > www : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunos >=20 > Be specific: SunOS 3.x and 4.x are BSD. The later ones are called > Solaris 1.x IIRC > Solaris 2.x also calls itself SunOS, just take a close look at the bo= ot > messages. It is as DES already pointed out a SysV derivative SunOS 5.x was the OS. Solaris 2.x was the OS plus the windowing system. So when you booted a system running Solaris 2.x, you were greated with SunOS 5.x banenrs. Common usage was that SunOS 5 systems were called "Solaris", and SunOS 4 systems were called SunOS, regardless of how Sun labelled the distribution media. > wikipedia stinks too often to be taken as gospel... The entry for Solaris largely agrees with my recollection of events. It's been long enough that I'm a bit hazy on the details, but there's nothing in it I know to be wrong. =09=09=09http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more informatio= n.