From owner-cvs-all Wed Mar 14 10:49:28 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.originative.co.uk (mailgate.originative.co.uk [62.232.68.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223D537B718; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:49:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@freebsd-services.co.uk) Received: from freebsd-services.co.uk (lobster.originative.co.uk [62.232.68.81]) by mailgate.originative.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4F61D14A; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:49:17 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AAFBD51.A77E97A1@freebsd-services.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:49:53 +0000 From: Paul Richards X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, gsutter@zer0.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: proposals for fixing the PROBLEM at hand References: <20010314005648.I9369@klapaucius.zer0.org> <20010314011016.A28290@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AAF86A6.65492AEC@freebsd-services.co.uk> <20010314102240A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > Well I was under the impression that you were going to be quite pedantic > > about it being security fixes only. If it's critical bugfixes as well > > then that's exactly what I've been calling for. > > They would have to be so critical as to constitute something like a > panic() which joe user could induce by running a common command, > arguably a DoS anyway and something back in the security category. > You're not going to get your "has all the necessary updates, runs > all the latest software" goal out of this at all and you'll still > need to act like a real admin. :) Not really, this is exactly what I've always advocated, a branch that has critical patches applied, that can be tracked in production environments without risking any incompatibilities ensuing. The issue of whether ports will support the -RELEASE branch is a separate one. Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message