From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Feb 7 23:41:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28203 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:41:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail0.atl.bellsouth.net (sgi-b.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.27] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28198 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:41:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wghicks@bellsouth.net) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (host-216-76-138-167.ath.bellsouth.net [216.76.138.167]) by mail0.atl.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28787; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 02:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wghicks.bellsouth.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA03440; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 02:58:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net) To: gsutter@pobox.com Cc: pfgiffun@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New CODA release In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:28:48 -0800" <19990207162848.L27505@orcrist.mediacity.com> References: <19990207162848.L27505@orcrist.mediacity.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990208025857M.wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 02:58:57 -0500 From: W Gerald Hicks X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 61 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Gregory Sutter Subject: Re: New CODA release Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:28:48 -0800 > On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 06:00:53PM -0500, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > Sean Eric Fagan wrote: > > > > > > Whiner. You don't like it, go write your own. > > > > Ohh.. so everyone that doesn't like GPL is a whiner nowadays...The nice > > No, the guy that was whining was a whiner. The coders of Coda made up > their minds to go with the GPL. The whining guy didn't try to > influence their decision, didn't present new reasons why Coda shouldn't > be GPLed, but was just bitching and moaning about it. That's fine, but > then if Sean wants to call him a whiner, he won't be far off. Pedro has made quite a few useful contributions to the ports collection, one of which became a toolchain used in the successful development of several large software projects here last year. He's not, by a far stretch, a do-nothing whiner. I always thought that the negative smiley :-( indicates a sense of sadness. I don't know of one indicating that one is whining. I'm sad about the CODA decision too and regret that we cannot consider using it here in a major project underway, per corporate legal counsel. As far as I recall, there wasn't much opportunity to lobby against the licensing changes, but you are correct, it *is* their code to license as they wish. Their reasons given for the change didn't convince me, but I doubt they care very much about that either. Also, there exists an exemption from GPL for grandfathered kernel code right? Cheers, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net > > > thing of a filesystem like CODA would be being able to use it with a LOT > > of platforms (yes, including commercial ones with expensive suport) > > without the license getting in your way. > > Yes, it would be nice. No, it won't happen in commercial systems > unless the Coda people can be convinced to either not use the GPL or > provide an alternative licensing scheme. That's life. > > Greg > -- > Gregory S. Sutter If I had finished this sentence > mailto:gsutter@pobox.com > http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ > PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message