From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 1 14:57:36 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FC21065670; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jilles@stack.nl) Received: from mx1.stack.nl (relay04.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308878FC13; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 14:57:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from turtle.stack.nl (turtle.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::132]) by mx1.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B9D1DD654; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 15:57:35 +0100 (CET) Received: by turtle.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 1677) id 1C3A01730D; Sat, 1 Jan 2011 15:57:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 15:57:35 +0100 From: Jilles Tjoelker To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20110101145734.GA72435@stack.nl> References: <201012301806.oBUI6VcW046731@svn.freebsd.org> <20101231144308.GA55052@stack.nl> <4D1E51BD.8090707@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D1E51BD.8090707@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek Subject: Re: svn commit: r216823 - head/sbin/shutdown X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 14:57:36 -0000 On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 02:57:17PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > On 12/31/2010 07:43, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 06:06:31PM +0000, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: > >> Author: pjd > >> Date: Thu Dec 30 18:06:31 2010 > >> New Revision: 216823 > >> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/216823 > >> Log: > >> For compatibility with Linux and Solaris add poweroff(8). > >> It is implemented as a hard link to shutdown(8) and it is equivalent of: > >> # shutdown -p now > > If we go that way, then for consistency reboot(8) and halt(8) should > > also be equivalent to calling shutdown -r now and shutdown -h now > > respectively, unless conflicting options are given. Linux has a -f > > option for what's currently reboot's and halt's default action, and > > fastboot(8)/fasthalt(8) could also retain the current behaviour. > > I would be in favour of this change. > I'm not sure I'd go this far. I really *LIKE* that halt/reboot is the > low-level interface that shutdown -r now calls. I'm not sure that > moving away from this would be a good idea. It cuts out many levels of > indirection that can be useful in many instances. But that's not how it works. After printing all the warnings, shutdown(8) signals init. Ctrl+Alt+Del also signals init (and that's nontrivial to change, because it's in the kernel). Only if the strange -o option is used does shutdown execute reboot(8) or halt(8). I think the canonical low-level interface should be sending signals to init. reboot(8) and halt(8) doing things on their own should be banished to non-default options. (Something should be fixed first so that /etc/rc.d/mixer doesn't destroy the user's settings from single-user mode.) -- Jilles Tjoelker