From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 18:41:18 2008 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4E81065690 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836FB8FC0C for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Rs4e1a0210EZKEL54uhHQW; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:41:17 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RuhG1a0052P6wsM3MuhGWk; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:41:17 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nDyfJ9EgUwYA:10 a=VuVmoQMNfQoA:10 a=6N_rebIbAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=PvlOpsHHrRWEHd5Y4moA:9 a=-xGDpppnWK-TgcvLN0UA:7 a=eN-h0PJy1b9oJss-Hpm7oAO1EHcA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4D09BC9419; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:41:16 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org> To: Kiffin <kiffin.gish@planet.nl> Message-ID: <20081012184116.GA98201@icarus.home.lan> References: <NBECLJEKGLBKHHFFANMBIEHHCLAA.joeb@a1poweruser.com> <1223823114.8480.0.camel@kiffin-laptop> <20081012150140.GA94292@icarus.home.lan> <1223832997.15340.0.camel@kiffin-laptop> <20081012175823.GB97109@icarus.home.lan> <1223835831.15699.2.camel@kiffin-laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1223835831.15699.2.camel@kiffin-laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: joeb@a1poweruser.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSDrelease X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:41:19 -0000 On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 08:23:51PM +0200, Kiffin wrote: > Thanks for the prompt response. However, I have a brand-new ASUS X59XL > notebook so the CD drive isn't old. Could it be that the CD drive is too > new and not recognized properly bt FreeBSD rather than too old? 1) There's nothing "special" about the FreeBSD CDs. They are Mode 1 discs, and do not use anything like Joliet filesystem extensions (so that MS-DOS can see all the filenames in 8.3 format). 2) The age of the CD drive has nothing to do with what sort of extensions and capabilities it has. I should have been more precise when I gave you facts talking about old CD drives -- it's likely that fellow's Teac CD drive has a buggy firmware, and it's highly possible that your Asus laptop has the same problem. 3) ATAPI is ATAPI; FreeBSD does not have "CD drive-specific drivers". It would be much more likely that FreeBSD wouldn't find the CD at all (or any hard disks, etc.) due to the ATA controller not being supported. Yours appears supported, otherwise FreeBSD wouldn't even know the *type* of disc. I would recommend you contact Asus Support and ask them to burn an ISO of FreeBSD and try to install it on that laptop, to reproduce your problem. If they can reproduce it, they should be able to figure out what's causing the issue; if they can't, then it may be a problem with your laptop specifically. P.S. -- This "audio CD" problem goes all the way back to FreeBSD 2.2.6 or earlier. It's not a new problem, but it's very rare. Because of this fact, I strongly doubt the problem is with FreeBSD, and rather with buggy firmwares in CD drives. > On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 10:58 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 07:36:37PM +0200, Kiffin wrote: > > > I rechecked the discs with a verify tool using the original iso files > > > and nothing is wrong with the discs. > > > > A couple comments: > > > > 1) This isn't telling me anything. For all I know the "verify tool" > > only compares ISO file contents to what's on a disc -- that probably > > will return success. > > > > You need to realise there's a *lot* of information in the ISO header > > which defines the type of disc it is, and types of extensions it > > supports (Joliet, Red Ridge, etc.). And the burning software has to > > properly know how to use those bits, otherwise it can do the wrong > > thing. > > > > 2) Some older CD drives apparently report FreeBSD discs as Audio CDs > > (even inside of Windows). I've seen this happen once in my life, but I > > was not trying to install FreeBSD (I was just inserting the disc into a > > Windows PC to see what was on it). > > > > The below thread is of a fellow running into the same problem: and his > > issue turned out to be a very old/unreliable CD drive, which he likely > > (eventually) replaced. He resorted to installing off of another machine > > over the network, but you get the point: > > > > http://forums.devshed.com/bsd-help-31/freebsd-installation-fails-when-looking-for-media-45366.html > > > > > On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 08:01 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 04:51:54PM +0200, Kiffin wrote: > > > > > I checked it and everything looks just fine, e.g. just Freebsd install > > > > > files and nothing else. > > > > > > > > It's very possible that the disc burning software you used did something > > > > incorrectly, or did something custom. What program burnt the CD? If a > > > > UNIX program, what flags did you give it? > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 18:42 +0800, joeb wrote: > > > > > > Yea I would say your burn of the .iso file to your cd did not work. Mount > > > > > > the cd and see if it contains a directory tree of Freebsd install files or > > > > > > mp3 files. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of > > > > > > kiffin.gish@planet.nl > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:07 PM > > > > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > > > Subject: The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a > > > > > > FreeBSDrelease > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there. > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to install 7.1-BETA from the CD I burned from > > > > > > 7.1-BETA-i386-disc1.iso, but after I created all the partitions etc and then > > > > > > selected to install, I get the following error message: > > > > > > > > > > > > "The disc in your drive looks more like an Audio CD than a FreeBSD release" > > > > > > > > > > > > Any idea what's wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kiffin Gish <kiffin.gish@planet.nl> > > > > > > Gouda, The Netherlands > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Kiffin <kiffin.gish@planet.nl> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > -- > > > Kiffin <kiffin.gish@planet.nl> > > > -- > Kiffin <kiffin.gish@planet.nl> -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. 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