Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:10:47 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org> To: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net> Cc: FreeBSD GNOME Users <gnome@freebsd.org>, Michael Johnson <ahze@freebsd.org>, Kris Moore <kris@pcbsd.org> Subject: Re: Helping to put FreeBSD GNOME onto more desktops Message-ID: <484EDFC7.7000901@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080610120249.19093km5gji8viw4@webmail.leidinger.net> References: <1212956773.92272.20.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <b2203fed0806081935s59b2cd8t5865f20e8ee6d3f4@mail.gmail.com> <20080609121047.467267lugai59y0w@webmail.leidinger.net> <484DC7C6.10007@freebsd.org> <20080610120249.19093km5gji8viw4@webmail.leidinger.net>
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Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org> (from Mon, 09 Jun 2008 > 20:16:06 -0400): > >> Alexander Leidinger wrote: >>> Quoting Michael Johnson <ahze@freebsd.org> (from Sun, 8 Jun 2008 >>> 21:35:35 -0500): >>> >>>> I guess we should come up with a list of things we want in the 'easy >>>> GNOME >>>> setup port'. I suggest we start a wiki/todo page so others can add >>>> their >>>> ideas/plans. >>> >>> Good idea. >>> >>> What we would need (IMHO): >>> - .desktop files for stuff which hasn't one (back in the 2.6 days, I >>> started a port for this, see >>> http://www.leidinger.net/FreeBSD/misc-desktop-files-2.6.1.tar.bz2 for >>> some rudimentary stuff) >> >> itetcu was also looking at creating entries by default for ports. I >> wrote a program for him to extract PNG images from arbitrary >> executables, so something may come from this. I do agree having >> additional desktop files for common GNOMEish apps (e.g. Wireshark) >> would be nice. > > Why limiting this to gnomeish apps? Do you expect that GNOME users only > use gnomeish apps and KDE users only kdeish ones without having a look > at other stuff (TCL/python/perl/SDL/whatever)? For example I don't mind > having a desktop file for acroread. Of course, you're right. I was saying GNOMEish apps because they tend to come with icons (even if they don't install .desktop files). But this idea applies to any application (even terminal apps). > >>> - optional automatic config of the system (adding rc.conf stuff, >>> maybe usermount sysctl stuff, ...) >> >> This is easy as we can adopt some of the niceties done by PC-BSD (e.g. >> default PolicyKit.conf, devfs config, sysctls, etc.). > > Do you have pointers? Yes. The HAL FAQ is a good place to start: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html#q3 Additionally, PC-BSD has a pretty good default PolicyKit.conf file which covers media mounting: http://svn.pcbsd.org/browser/pcbsd/trunk/system-overlay/usr/local/etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf (users would need to be put into operator for this to work) And then there's the regular GNOME FAQ which mentions some devfs.conf stuff: http://www.freebsd.org//gnome/docs/faq2.html#q15 Finally, some good sysctls (though maybe we should leave core dumps enabled): http://svn.pcbsd.org/browser/pcbsd/trunk/system-overlay/etc/sysctl.conf Joe -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome
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