From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 16 04:35:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FE5D6F82E for ; Tue, 16 May 2017 04:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (mail.geeks.org [IPv6:2001:4980:3333:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4C6718D1 for ; Tue, 16 May 2017 04:35:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by after-clamsmtpd.geeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E07110238; Mon, 15 May 2017 23:35:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.geeks.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 3137E110235; Mon, 15 May 2017 23:35:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 23:35:58 -0500 From: Doug McIntyre To: Trust No 1 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Your opinion about HP z800 ws Message-ID: <20170516043558.GA54991@geeks.org> References: <20170514184138.67a8a221@dukefleed.2mh.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170514184138.67a8a221@dukefleed.2mh.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 04:35:59 -0000 On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 06:41:48PM +0200, Trust No 1 via freebsd-questions wrote: > I would like to buy a used HP z800 workstation to build a new > upcoming 11.1 system and replace my Dell T7400 (running 10.3). Seems more like a sidewise-swap, rather than an upgrade going by the specs on either system, although perhaps you get to run 5 gens out on the Intel CPU rather than 6 gens out on the Intel CPU, depending on what CPU you end up in either. I'd probably spend the money on a little bit newer. > And, VERY important for me, is the possibility to have a raid-5 system > because I will use it also as a repository for all the photos of my > family. Going by HP support docs, the Z800 could have two different RAID configs. Either an Intel RAID system, which was a software RAID combined with Windows drivers, or an LSI based RAID system appropriate for the era. eg. LSI pretty much has made all the hardware RAID controllers since this time, they all act about the same. I don't know anything about the HP Workstations, but if they are anything like the servers, one thing I don't like about them is their RAID systems only will take HP firmware disks, and refuse to work with anything else. LSI RAID and HBA cards of the era will also only take up to 2TB disks max (well, maybe only 1TB, since that is the biggest listed drive as part of the spec sheet), but 2TB is the max the controller chip supports. I'd really strongly suggest doing ZFS instead directly on FreeBSD rather than RAID-5 hardware RAID card. Having direct access to the disks for control & monitoring really makes a nice combination. Turn on SMART monitoring, and you'll start catching drive fails super early before it really goes south on you, and the ZFS file system will protect against bitrot and let you setup a number of different configurations emphasizing whatever is most important to you.