From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 4 01:14:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C397ECE for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8349F1BF3 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:14:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2014 01:10:55 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.242] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2014 01:10:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2014 01:10:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 470148.53961.bm@omp1013.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41010 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Feb 2014 01:10:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1391476255; bh=CS7S7OBfeLN/JKuJceLGD5bHnVXgn0h1QKs16HEnZko=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=taLIU8Um4eK8Ooc//MWx+iJ2FcURgyjTLx5DD+yxgyTWTZ5lKugfrzjhEJfExjtcxYW6H7PGgdm2Z+ZIs++6bV9Ot1/rAqhUw08/CtOxADLoIld1wdMh/zjGUZ3LqlMTe+8G3hOrsZTkLOMdxuY8HSHAteB7k3PMlh+gAh7pSBI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hA4nu3hllXSSOYDXKMQW6x4/1PmldLdIkZcCduQl+pShZ7fVuQQSq5axFJv2StW+MoDaG6NUn6b0I4OzJdadS7CtMqp/iIECcFJ/Cc7uvT7ckgPq4wvBNn6oE2GqTnAIZ32dQkd1CUcO/AoDb3R11T773Z0pvrjasmEKy8FzVcs=; X-YMail-OSG: qDGyOFEVM1nuCRNjXy2eOEni5zJ3ZRBFPZY8vB93V1seVOO j0UFyXSUsAWO8UY3CJEEM7RnMUddq8O2WUp83JHthMafaZW88iw2rgThOAd5 kn_LRm_Jjnb14lKl6H2ZTwDfl_8yXmhJKSiL2Ox_9gh78LAkN18U_.wrRh2I iHp_THmD9zLAwqE7khBWjWXJlESQKUmEWl3oRRU_FFs63.J1YgvxGaTfkgG9 XmgKey4u0P7Qxevwq56D.Is1r6kCY1xboyyoM3bZPbuIMcD5E1fHZPJIvgc. ft0tKp40y4uOLwvoDyA.zxUKV66AqVPDFGm_nSTcxiqvF5dJjKxqE6q4l7yM ZHHTY1iEscKstRYJSSVcLbTmDErTiOelfGsZBIGB3x2ISlafCToVVPYkpY09 mkDvrNc0xrtulEpjBGfbYJUKzp6smfPddf8GQVolBv1PawaH1ynZqOnIrtFt mx5MfwIQIQH4HV6JeGP3rBMeREucLXVNjLUFmh6xmbIWpCNBdUzGLY9nANyD 9RfQOVv.gisxwLpXmag-- Received: from [99.98.83.69] by web184905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:10:55 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, Q3VycmVudGx5LCB0aGVyZSBhcmUgMiBIYW5kYm9vayBzZWN0aW9ucyB0aGF0IGRlYWwgd2l0aCB1cGdyYWRpbmcgcG9ydHM6Cgo1LjYuMy4gVXBncmFkaW5nIFBvcnRzwqAgKHdoaWNoIGRlc2NyaWJlcyB0aGUgdXNlIG9mIHRoZSBwb3J0bWFzdGVyIGFuZCBwb3J0dXBncmFkZSBwb3J0cykKCmFuZAoKMjMuMy4gUG9ydHNuYXA6IGEgUG9ydHMgQ29sbGVjdGlvbiBVcGRhdGUgVG9vbCAod2hpY2ggZGVzY3JpYmVzIHRoZSBidWlsdC1pbiBwb3J0c25hcCkKCkkgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0byBjb21iaW5lIHRoZXNlIGkBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.174.629 Message-ID: <1391476255.71576.YahooMailNeo@web184905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:10:55 -0800 (PST) From: Dru Lavigne Subject: updating ports To: "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dru Lavigne List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 01:14:15 -0000 Currently, there are 2 Handbook sections that deal with upgrading ports:=0A= =0A5.6.3. Upgrading Ports=A0 (which describes the use of the portmaster and= portupgrade ports)=0A=0Aand=0A=0A23.3. Portsnap: a Ports Collection Update= Tool (which describes the built-in portsnap)=0A=0AI would like to combine = these into 5.6.3.=0A=0ADo we want to encourage the use of third-party utils= or just encourage the use of the built in one?=0A=0AIf just the built in o= ne, I'll replace 5.6.3 with the contents of 23.3 and reduce portmaster/port= upgrade to a note that these utils are available in the ports collection.= =0A=0AIf we should describe all three, I'll place 23.3 as the first utility= to be described in 5.6.3.=0A=0ACheers,=0A=0ADru From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 4 01:20:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A859179; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail0.glenbarber.us (mail0.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2607:fc50:1:2300:1001:1001:1001:face]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D1551C26; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from glenbarber.us (nucleus.glenbarber.us [IPv6:2001:470:8:1205:2:2:ff:100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: gjb) by mail0.glenbarber.us (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4EC0719D4F; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 01:20:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 mail0.glenbarber.us 4EC0719D4F Authentication-Results: mail0.glenbarber.us; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:20:07 -0500 From: Glen Barber To: Dru Lavigne Subject: Re: updating ports Message-ID: <20140204012007.GZ1766@glenbarber.us> References: <1391476255.71576.YahooMailNeo@web184905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tArtifyz9D3PkaxN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1391476255.71576.YahooMailNeo@web184905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) Cc: "freebsd-doc@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 01:20:11 -0000 --tArtifyz9D3PkaxN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 05:10:55PM -0800, Dru Lavigne wrote: > Currently, there are 2 Handbook sections that deal with upgrading ports: >=20 > 5.6.3. Upgrading Ports=A0 (which describes the use of the portmaster and = portupgrade ports) >=20 > and >=20 > 23.3. Portsnap: a Ports Collection Update Tool (which describes the built= -in portsnap) >=20 > I would like to combine these into 5.6.3. >=20 > Do we want to encourage the use of third-party utils or just encourage th= e use of the built in one? >=20 I think there are two separate topics here (without having looked at the Handbook sections yet). I don't think portmaster and portupgrade actually handle updating the ports tree itself, but handle upgrading/rebuilding ports within the ports tree. Portsnap, on the other hand, does not actually touch the software installed (meaning, it does not update the installed third-party software), but only handles updating the ports tree sources themselves. > If just the built in one, I'll replace 5.6.3 with the contents of 23.3 an= d reduce portmaster/portupgrade to a note that these utils are available in= the ports collection. >=20 > If we should describe all three, I'll place 23.3 as the first utility to = be described in 5.6.3. >=20 Glen --tArtifyz9D3PkaxN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS8EBGAAoJELls3eqvi17QlYEP/0xyJlkLHJiazrozn+95hudo UIEn2ecQXVITFW0c+DNHz2Z6Rd1GzD2m8c3TjsNhaUeioGYqRxApkvpIvpkJh25n Vizf4f1QQAcs1xyuYzQINFCS0PPk4nWOB955dqbn2e4FhWhBKerwyqWjOoE0Pj/O P4/R2tNs9phW+8wqDdHsaX0KoRnqyaXjTcoEKUsH6X4yy8ZHy6YjmOB+ylzG/Vs9 5d56uMlSU4OrSMfx4hdPpPRWJt0YBxoM7AaO32QLwQ6uG+Ntlp24s9xNDkB0YeYr cwT50E+mSPDvZakgYgSUh7vN/k1UWqTa6qmY0902NV5GAUu6cMG+N2dFnS2qK2Ll PS+5RD5huAKEAC1LR2qtfHip7ZqsJHyDoxaDcFnHC4sBOcjcynjCfh3BxOrR449N EhiXNNbs5RvRL5y/Si8wLMwvFXixydlBvHUL45cQe+p7FObA3Gf1EFssEk9Su9aY lbHdgSJr08oImuayt0EFvn6RQj7tvULybuGoelgwJXCFLjZdJHH//NoUEZFP2e8H GL5rasRitRCe/sulkVi1JBChYVDDNEMsYMQz03UFyhni+mWY9H53CnSb2PFxEF8/ LhD/wB6ozv9EStIyMv9U8lF2+EYZ8m0bKaRb5cuiafoWIfpgJpbHUlp3YLT3FwVH qGXE1PVGPodpwERRsncn =CCdH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tArtifyz9D3PkaxN--