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Date:      Thu, 24 May 2012 10:04:14 +0100
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@rabson.org>
To:        lev@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-current FreeBSD <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Steven Hartland <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
Subject:   Re: UFS+J panics on HEAD
Message-ID:  <CACA0VUgfq4WwK7FGqJUbXKwJUe3a5rYieHE4J80gvFV-9ui6Ag@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <1239922227.20120524120421@serebryakov.spb.ru>
References:  <38A5BC8F-A8FB-4371-AB1D-9548F5957254@lists.zabbadoz.net> <20120523131046.GC2358@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <12410676034.20120524013853@serebryakov.spb.ru> <8D72700F5CA4461BAD1C98908689CB9E@multiplay.co.uk> <1239922227.20120524120421@serebryakov.spb.ru>

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If all you are doing is reading, the ZFS on-disk format is well documented
and fairly easy to work with. Take a look at the ZFS bootloader code - that
implements a ZFS reader in not too many lines of code and could easily be
re-purposed for a recovery tool.

On 24 May 2012 09:04, Lev Serebryakov <lev@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Hello, Steven.
> You wrote 24 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=8F 2012 =D0=B3., 1:58:48:
>
> SH> While it might be a shame to see FFS go by the wayside are there any
> SH> big reasons why you would rather stick with FFS instead of moving
> SH> to ZFS with all the benefits that brings?
>  I afraid, that after real hardware failure (like real HDD death,
> not these pseudo-broken-hardware situations, when HDDs is perfectly
> alive and in good condition), all data will be lost. I could restore
> data from remains of FFS by hands (format is straightforward and
> well-known), but ZFS is different story...
>
>  And all these messages about panics after pool import... Yes, it
> could be result of REAL hardware problems, but I want to have some
> hope to restore some of the data after such crashes.
>
>  Yes, backups is solution, but I don't have money to buy (reliable)
> hardware to backup 4Tb of data :(
>
>  I attended "Solaris internals" 5-days training four years ago (when I
> worked for Sun Microsystems), and instructor says same words...
>
>
> --
> // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org>
>
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