From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 17:45:50 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DC0106564A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anti_spam256@yahoo.ca) Received: from n2a.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n2a.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB2708FC15 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [76.13.13.26] by n2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2010 17:44:34 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.166] by t3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2010 17:44:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp107.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2010 17:44:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 926942.94068.bm@omp107.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 15121 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2010 17:44:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.ca; s=s1024; t=1267897474; bh=EiNrXmkgMCeY1M9eWBEOwdecnuuolUCNVinQCA5g03o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Yf3iz20jUk93QfUUHJwdkyM+XAGujy1bkKxShZ9dknVLKlQqHHzFfLGK786b9iDC/Q5cknMTPuEOzNHkpaImSAlkTWwawv9+5CfpsWwX/ucEG2EKy/OzMNnBagCw/CtJUCy0P5QAGJeECjxadMfVymA9HSj5ypo9X+c4H7cKYkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UwciiwrjzB4GAAo5+CrSmJxMT2EDxEEkzTJxAxZ/Es9x/A9GdldAvSG1CXCI5kMAIw26GaOsRFtUwDphR3cr9R1yKmNfpQ1sZMipQP3PEroAEd7vXUJdHONCCBaw3cV3a3krZn/S6GeaFx0VeT8VNCdNT/4uJbBisi+ueGi2diU=; Message-ID: <799211.14657.qm@web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4L8GE54VM1k37zhWdujtjdBHGTV5.P0Lwz_GLnutuN85GSymDKRhahI2h7fNJ_keoCJHSkC5tJusrHH.2VVUeZEoPjJ1Nu3yeGGqUWwEYLkeB9eXR3YXumY_8ZA9ooo2aoTAp68I6BEDU5zDVBsvRyPRJKUYpX6yFgN.m9jrvuTB7gj7h8b47MJslqKPY9EJvz9er4aoNhgBJaiAHBWy4tOrdDtOVf2fuuuzVPTxCv8iVCWv6PinbGdTU9BOgHWcsgPbnJU9Q0pRJpYt5GYEZZkKd_aefsaoZOCtPNBLbX3GlNbGqw9bmWFySjU4wQ7T0d1.abXVfhR3wfOUf9Bze5R18_CQJXRRCoA2ur0Nsh4o4u6rpZwes_u3y84k4Vz_tfALAN_dFRSiMf.VBnGk4G8- Received: from [208.99.137.71] by web65514.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:44:34 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:44:34 -0800 (PST) From: James Phillips To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20100306120022.DB2A2106568B@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:45:50 -0000 > Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:54:38 +0000 > From: Matthew Seaman > Subject: Re: freebsd install from floppy > To: perryh@pluto.rain.com > Cc: questions@freebsd.org, > plukawski@gmail.com > Message-ID: <4B92265E.5030109@infracaninophile.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > On 06/03/2010 09:26:22, perryh@pluto.rain.com > wrote: > > I seem to remember something about the floppy images > being dropped > > because few current (or even recent) systems have a > floppy drive at > > all, much less a bootable one. >=20 > Yeah, but the floppy disk drive was already obsolete 10 > years ago.=A0 It's > just taken this long for it to fall down dead.=A0 Good > riddance to it. > Why would anyone want an unreliable, slow and tiny capacity > device when > you can get GiB capacity USB sticks everywhere nowadays? >=20 Correction: Apple stopped selling computers with floppy drives about 10 yea= rs ago. The floppy drive is not obsolete because there is still no viable r= eplacement that has the same (or better) functionality. The problem with USB sticks is that they don't have user-accessible write-p= rotect tabs. If you plug a USB stick into a compromised system, it is "tain= ted." Secure Digital Cards have a write-protect tab, but "Secure" means "secure a= gainst copying" (Copy Protection for Recordable Media), making them inappro= priate for "known good" filesystem images. I have started using CD-ROM booting to install FreeBSD. The problem with CD= -R images is that any "tweaks" to the disk image require burning a new disk= . Regards, James Phillips Recent Slashdot exchange about exactly this issue: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3D1565678&cid=3D31302916 =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AMake your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet= Explorer=AE 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloa= ds.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/