From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG  Wed Jul 28 18:51:46 2004
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id 1C53216A4CE; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:51:46 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from bast.unixathome.org (bast.unixathome.org [66.11.174.150])
	by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id B7CEC43D2D; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:51:45 +0000 (GMT)
	(envelope-from dan@langille.org)
Received: from xeon (xeon.unixathome.org [192.168.0.18])
	by bast.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
	id D410D3D34; Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:51:44 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:51:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>
X-X-Sender: dan@xeon.unixathome.org
To: Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
In-Reply-To: <200407282034.34549.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <20040728145044.G61655@xeon.unixathome.org>
References: <20040727223701.07D1B5D08@ptavv.es.net>
	<20040727211314.N80850@xeon.unixathome.org>
	<200407282034.34549.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE
cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org
cc: Joan Picanyol <lists-freebsd-current@biaix.org>
Subject: Re: /usr/ports/UPDATING announcement (was: Re: Xorg built fails on
 CURRENT: can't find Xauth.h)
X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current
	<freebsd-current.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>,
	<mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>,
	<mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 18:51:46 -0000

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Michael Nottebrock wrote:

> On Wednesday 28 July 2004 19:00, Joan Picanyol wrote:
>
> > > I'm all for announcing it. =A0I never heard of it until last week. =
=A0I too
> > > was told to read it, I was stupid for not reading it, why aren't you
> > > reading it
> > Me too :o
>
> [...]
>
> > > It needs to go out on freebsd-announce IMHO.
> >
> > And the Handbook as well.
>
> That's all somewhat beside the point, IMHO (although it really should be
> documented in the handbook). It was announced (here), many people saw it,
> others didn't. And people will still miss things regardless of how many
> places you announce them in.

That is not an excuse for not announcing in the appropriate places.

> The most effective way to spread the news actually _is_ the process you'v=
e
> been going through: Someone tells you in a more or less friendly way abou=
t
> some new thing (perhaps after you've been complaining about something in =
a
> more or less friendly way because you missed an announcement). Just ignor=
e
> the bozos who call you dumb and care about the useful pieces of
> information. :)

Yep, and if it had been sent to freebsd-announce, many more people would
have read about it.  current@ and doc@ is insufficient.

--=20
Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/